A858 vs the Cat Ladies – Part 2 Spooky Steven and The Game

See Part One

My post yesterday has caused quite a stir in some corners of the Internet. I started to update it but there’s so much new content I decided to make a separate post. Stay tuned, this is a fluid situation and large amounts of intel are coming in.

Donna Plays Games

One of the images that A858 sent me in his emails was a painting by this dubious “Donna Emerald” character. The email specifically discussed the painting in relation to the initials of “J” and “K” shown there, which he related to a story about wood carving. Fair Use provisions of copyright law permit discussion of a copyrighted work for non-profit education purposes. Donna has objected to the use of her painting on copyright grounds. Although our use here is completely legal and justifiable in context, we have removed the painting from the story at her request.

Donna has also objected to “one-sided” coverage of this issue at this blog. For her side, see her blog – which is even more “one-sided”. There’s no need for us to present her side and decide for anyone reading which one stacks up the best. We’re sharing the evidence that we have, which comes from the other side of her discussions. It takes two to tango, and two to describe their experience of tangoing together. The experience is unique to each.

She made a response video, but bizarrely (for a blogger) does not allow embedding:


“I’m not a Christian but if I were I would be praying for you”. What is immoral about trying to disprove someone’s false allegation? That is only an attack if you are trying to defend something wrong in the first place. Our religion is about truth and forgiveness. Judgement is reserved for God; sympathy and compassion is what we give our fellow humans. Nothing in this post is meant as a personal attack on “Donna”. It’s an attempt to stop the spreading of false narratives by providing whatever evidence I have – and also to show how there are connections between these YouTubers that are not immediately apparent.

They cry out in pain as they strike you, and they scream incessantly that they are victims of gang-stalking – while attacking targets in gangs with disinformation.

Whoever is operating the A858 account now is not Thomas Schoenberger, their writing styles are completely different and so are their email headers.

A858 email metadata:

TS email metadata:

Donna tested Jack’s French and he failed. Thomas speaks many languages fluently, as he has demonstrated repeatedly on video.

ParadisePete73 is not Thomas Schoenberger either.

I witnessed Pete speaking on the Discord voice when Defango and his crew took over Leppo’s channel. Many people heard this, so the lie that he is a “sock puppet” account and not a real person has been completely debunked. That doesn’t matter to Donna, because it doesn’t fit her victim narrative. The Tweet she describes from ParadisePete73 as a “threat” to her is actually a comment to Defango, who live-streamed his drive from Carson City to Lake Tahoe.

Donna has claimed that Janon has falsely identified her as Sheila Kavanagh, photographer. She appears to instead be Sheila Kavanagh, recognized as a painter of portraits and landscapes.

Decide for yourself. We will not doxx this person by providing address, phone number, or any other personal information. The information we are sharing here has all been put out into the public domain by herself, as she acknowledges in her livestream.

Note “skavop” Slideshare and link to Donna Emerald’s blog:

In this YouTube chat, the “Donna Emerald” character gets blocked and immediately “skavop” appears to defend her.

The “Skavop” character then appears and talks about Donna in the third person. Nobody’s buying it, and the sock puppet account gets banned.

This banning triggered a lengthy post accusing others of gang-stalking, and of course painting Donna as an innocent victim.

Donna has tried to distance herself from her involvement in #TheGame23

#TheGame23 relates to SiriSys. The infamous bot Buddhist Quinn Michaels was promoting a lot of this stuff, and Donna claims that is where her interest came from.

Read more about #TheGame23 on Reddit

There is no question that she is not just “researching” it, but actively promoting it and encouraging others to play also.

This is from Donna’s blog, posted October 2019:

Note what looks very much like the Cicada 3301 logo in the Assassin’s Creed video she posted.

She talks about Project MAYHEM, which was the origins of Burning Man and has expanded to incorporate Anonymous, WikiLeaks, #Occupy, and ARGs such as #Cicada3301 through Project MAYHEM 2012 and Project MAYHEM 2020. This was a topic we covered in some depth in Silicon Valley’s Secret Weapon – The Shadow History of Burners Part 7: Social Engineering on the Electronic Frontier (starts at about the 3 hour mark).

What Does Wyatt Know?

Image Credit: JAnon

Spooky Steven Speaks Slander

There have also been a couple of comments left here by Esteban Trujillo de Gutierrez of Bangkok. While I am sympathetic to his plight as a “100% disabled” veteran taking anti-psychotic meds in “horse doses” and methadone twice a day, I don’t appreciate him coming to my web site to spread his lies. This “researcher” thinks that a statement of claim by a plaintiff to initiate a lawsuit must all be completely true, even if it was never presented under oath to a Court and no evidence was ever provided for any of the claims. He states this as if it were fact but he cannot demonstrate that he has ever seen even one page from this statement of Claim, or any other documents related to the case.

Source: Magic Kingdom Dispatch

Of all the emails and attachments A858 sent to me, only one caused a problem. A virus and phishing error I’ve never seen before, warning “This Message Seems Dangerous” and contained links to a malicious site hosting malware. The email contained only one link: to what appeared to be Esteban’s twitter account.

This so-called self-described “researcher” Esteban seems to have been attacked by everyone he interviewed, and for some reason refused to release any of the interview he did with Defango a week after Isaac Kappy’s death.


Coincidentally (cough), he was a former Green Beret/DEA agent connected to Reagan and stationed at the Presidio SF alongside Lt Col Michael Aquino around the time of the Satanic Ritual Abuse, Franklin and Iran/Contra scandals.

So he’s “never ‘kind of connected'” to Presidents Reagan and Bush. Uh-huh. Other characters in this School Play are connected to the Bushes through massive political donations or family history. Defango has his own set of political connections, which seem to go surprisingly high for the #2 LARPer of the Internet in 2019 (decided by popular vote).

Esteban admitted that he was stationed at the Presidio base during the 80’s and knew exactly where Michael Aquino’s cubicle was. He claims to be a warlock/magician.

He tells us he doesn’t even know anyone connected to MagaCo, but is friends with their leader Glenn on his Keybase account:

He has already confessed directly to me that he is an informant to the guy he says he does nothing for.

His statement that he wanted nothing to do with me is belied by his frequent name-calling and promotion of falsehoods about me ever since.

Perhaps he is touchy about Satanism because this is the symbol he promotes on his pinned Tweet:

Esteban’s basis for claiming I am anti-Semitic was my suggestion that the Church of Satan’s connection to arms trafficking and Zionism and Jeffrey Epstein’s connection to arms trafficking and Zionism could possibly be related. Epstein worked for the MEGA Group, who have been connected to the Bushes through big dollar political donations.


Mitt Romney built his fortune with funding from Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s father.


We’re supposed to believe that a week after Isaac Kappy’s Mysterious Death, an occultist former (?) undercover agent with ties to the Bushes and the Presidio shows up with a sudden interest in the #Cicada3301 story? And around the same time as this some hedge fund guy with ties to the Bushes shows up attacking Thomas Schoenberger and speaking like they’re an expert in #Cicada3301? And all this is just coincidence, because Isaac Kappy and Jeffrey Epstein killed themselves?

Adding to the coincidences, Esteban calls himself “Magic Kingdom Dispatch”. The late Tracy Twyman spoke about Disney’s Hidden Hyperspace Kingdoms.

Source: Twitter

Esteban is on an openly stated mission to destroy Thomas Schoenberger, as are Brett Trimble, Defango, Marcus Conte, Shark Belly Kelly, Fkn Freddy, OG Wan Kenobi – and others who shall remain unnamed. Donna Emerald seems to be joining the crew. Who’s paying for the boat?

The question is, why? What has this music composer and cryptographic expert ever done to all these people? It seems like he offered Defango career opportunities and introductions and promoted him into the alt-media spotlight. The same thing he did for Isaac Kappy, who he had a few positive interactions with but wasn’t particularly close to. Isn’t this the Christian way, to reach out and help people who seem to be trying to do good things?

“Oh he had a stalking charge many years ago and then a DUI”. So what? Many of the people against TS have had their own run-ins with the law in the past. Either you let everyone have a voice or you consistently never let anyone have a voice if they have at least one felony, and that must last forever even if they did their time – even if it was dismissed. Forget paying your debt to society. This is a new form of social credit score, gangs of trolls choosing who is to be silenced and deplatformed. Censoring critics in the guise of “hate speech”. Break the law once, and lose the right to ever speak publicly again. Do the people pushing these narratives really want to live in a world like that? Maybe they do; many of them seem to be practicing Satanists, or at least espousing those values.

Let’s focus on the information, not the personalities. Why does it matter to Esteban if I have “bad hygiene”? If this was true, rather than something made up by someone trying unsuccessfully to get $3 million from me, would it change any of the research I’m presenting? Why not discuss the research, instead of the researcher?

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

In this case, their narratives are the same, their targets are the same, their tactics are the same, their attack vectors are synchronized – and anyone questioning them in any way gets equally attacked.


[Update Jan 30 2020]

This appears to be Donna’s “evidence” that Jack = TS. An account on YouTube called “Schoenberger’s Cat” made a comment “I am indeed proud to be Thomas Schoenberger”.

In the comments section she linked you can actually see Joe Blow (Thomas) talking to Schoenberger’s Cat, who sure seems to talk exactly like Jack.

Thomas has been trying to clear this up with Donna Emerald for quite some time now:

Jack stated the truth directly to Donna, and she accepted it at the time:

Donna’s claim that TheGame23 was something she looked at once and has no real interest in is further belied by the blogs she is promoting on her web site and the multiple posts there tagged “TheGame23”.

Jack claims to have been in the French Foreign Legion:

See Also

A858 Part One

#LARPWars Series

#QAnon Series

#IsaacKappy Series

7 comments on “A858 vs the Cat Ladies – Part 2 Spooky Steven and The Game

  1. Pingback: Michael Aquino Dead. Was Leppo His Last Interview? | Burners.Me: Me, Burners and The Man

  2. I have no idea what this is about, but I know that the chick with the problematic glasses is in the wrong. Problematic glasses is visual code for someone with an irrational ideological agenda. It’s a convenient nonverbal red-flag display, like having blue or pink hair. Since they know they’re full of shit, anyone taking them seriously is viewed as even less than bullshit, since they can’t detect it. It’s a game people play nowadays that TV is so boring.

    Before the invention of television people would play complex social games for entertainment. What we’re seeing nowadays is kinda like that, but retarded (not to say anything negative about retards).

  3. At least you quoted some facts correctly in this post, instead of using a858’s Emails as “proof” that he isn’t Thomas. I’m glad you referred people to my blog, too, so they can get the entire story, as you still haven’t covered the identity theft of Tristan Nichols’ photos, and background in Afganistan, and other warzones, as well as other very relevant items of proof, shown on my blog. I dont lie, tell tall tales, slander as defence, or threaten people, unlike your friends, and sockie accounts of Thomas, who already has a conviction, for stalking. That was tweeted and retweeted, that particular threat (there were many threats made, one, by Thomas, in comments on my own blog, under his own legal name, unusually) by Thomas and friends/ socks, and is a threat to me, which was later claimed, by “Jack”, in a tweet, to be referring to Glen H, of MagaCo., and now, I see, he’s claiming some reference to Defango, instead. It’s clearly aimed at me, and this is typical of the constant lying and attempts to discredit me, that you and your friends are using as a Shadowbox style tactic, and failing miserably, to cover up what you do to people you can’t “handle” or control. Keep dancin’, Steve, keep dancing to try to slime out of the situation. You destroyed your own reputations, not other people’s, and it’s through your own lot’s actions.

  4. Awesome! Awesome work, Steve. You get so much wrong, but you nonetheless do honor me.

    I am proud to be your adversary. I will work on a detailed response and send it along to you when it is complete.

    You say that you will publish opposing views on your website. I intend to hold you to that, as it will be hilarious to publish my rebuttal on your site.

    I agree that it is wrong and petty and mean spirited of me to point to articles in the Aussie press illustrating your poor personal hygiene, obesity, foul body odor and bad breath.

    Just because your co-conspirator TS claims that he talks to my ex-wives is no excuse. Nobody should bring wives, ex-wives, children, or even gold-digging ex-girlfriends into the dialogue. And your felon pal should stay away from my personal photos of my cats.

    So, I apologize. I am sorry that I did that. I will only say this much more by way of explanation. Not making an excuse. Just explaining.

    It was your absurd synaptic leaps, which you perform yet again in this whack job of a piece, that compelled me to smack you a good one. You write:

    “Esteban admitted that he was stationed at the Presidio base during the 80’s and knew exactly where Michael Aquino’s cubicle was. He claims to be a warlock/magician.”

    It is no secret that I was a student at the Defense Language Institute in 1986, a timeframe when noted Satanist Michael Aquino was also assigned to a military unit on the Presidio of San Francisco military base. It is in my public biography.

    I never admitted that I knew the location of Aquino’s cubicle, and you know it. How could I? I do not know. I do recall seeing a sign for the unit that Aquino was assigned to, a PSYOPs unit, if memory serves, I probably ran right past it during my daily exercise. But I could not point to its former location using Google Earth.

    You know this, and I reinforced this with you previously, but it just fits the narrative that you build around me, it just suits your narrative-building, and in your world proximity in geography and time equate to something. But to what?

    Ah, you tell us. “He claims to be a warlock/magician.” Do I? Where does the word “warlock” ever pass my lips? Nowhere, because I never used that term, and particularly not to describe myself, as I do not consider myself to be a “warlock.” Some of us employ more precision in terminology than you do.

    But you are casting shade on me, associating me with Michael Aquino, who was also a graduate of the Q Course (!), so telling a small lie is just too tempting. As for the word “magician,” I was called “magician” by colleagues for personal reasons that had nothing to do with the occult, and consulting my public biography will confirm a career in special operations, of which I am decidedly unashamed. But I will not object to your pinning that term on me, as it can have many meanings, and I do not consider it an insult.

    But you sure do. You proudly display your whopping ignorance when you characterize John Dee’s Hieroglyphic Monad as “Satanic.” So I am an admirer of Dame Frances Yates? Horrors! She was associated with the Warburg Institute! She published on Raymond Llull, and Giordano Bruno and Francis Bacon! Shiver me timbers!

    This is all so stupid. Truly ignorant. So I responded in terms that you would understand, stooping to your level, and I linked to multiple articles in the Aussie press that describe your poor personal hygiene. It was wrong of me to do so. I should never give anyone the idea to google the terms “steve outtrim body odor,” even when it yields truly funny articles. That was childish of me.

    So please accept my apologies for that. While neither you nor I compare to your convicted cyberstalking felon pal TS in terms of clinical obesity, we are admittedly no longer svelte. Still: it is quite a distinction for Australian newspapers to illustrate your bad body odor. As someone who was also discussed in newspapers of the day, I know how that feels, though no one ever said that I had bad breath or that I refused to shower. Am I jealous? Maybe a little bit.

    None of us has much control over what appears when anyone does a google search on our legal names. Thanks to you, I will just have to deal with it when my name comes up associated with distinguished pre-Renaissance thinkers like Raymond Llull. And I do not help myself when I occasionally mark my work with John Dee’s Monas sigil—or the iconography of 3301.

    Those readers of yours with deeper perspicacity may be prompted to wonder why. The rest will laugh about your bad hygiene.

    Take a shower, Steve! Are these enough “facts” for you? I will get straight to work on a detailed rebuttal. You will love it!

    Your enthusiastic adversary,


  5. I want to say, I appreciate that you bring evidence, always. I won’t make negative personal judgements here. I can only suggest that some parties engaged in unethical & harmful behavior should consider that they suffer as much harm, ultimately, by encircling themselves in destructive energy. Loving energy is far greater in strength and the capacity to flow out naturally into the world. However, I must say that you were wrongfully called anti-semitic. Opposing the corruption and harm of any nation’s leadership & power players is very different from hating a certain group of people. I do not support hate & I stand by my ethical views on this. It is an ignorant and calculated move to label you as a hater. It’s meant to upset you & to stir the tides against you, but luckily, we are not without our scruples in how bad actors apply psychological techniques.
    My last note is a reminder to those that engage in bad ops or simply bad behavior: despite the past, every day we are given the opportunity to choose to do better and be better. You might find that you are limited if you choose to continue down the wrong path, but you have the gift of Grace & unlimited potential if you decide to amend & walk righteously forward.

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