Over on one of the battlegrounds in the LARPWars that has been well covered here, the Defango channel, the past few days have seen an earth-shaking LARP explosion.
This has happened as I’m in the middle of writing a huge post about Bill Gates, Jason Goodman, Jeffrey Epstein, and Isaac Kappy’s Media Matrix.
Although they may at first seem unrelated, there is a staggering web of connections between these players and events. Defango is certainly one of the main characters, so initially I tried just adding this post to an already monster story. Instead I’m breaking that story up into at least two parts and releasing this part first. Things keep happening, events and information keep unfolding in real time. I’m struggling to keep up with the story and I’ve been on it for years, thousands of hours now. I will do my best to break it down and fill you in, stay tuned for even more that’s coming.
I predicted an escalation of the #LARPwars as we head into the 2020 election, and that is indeed coming true.
It is very interesting to see these operations being cast into the light of day. Pawns falling before knights and queens topple? Is JB the first of a wave of “Info War Suicide Bombers”, #FakeMAGA who will now blow their personas up to try to discredit whoever they formerly supported?
Defango’s credibility took another significant blow this week when LARPer James Brower aka JB aka “Two Scoops” confessed that the “Discord Logs” held up in September 2018 by Posobiec, Defango and others as “proof” of the creation of Q were indeed faked.
JB verified that he was “the real JB” by calling into Defango’s show and speaking with Manuel and Glen Herman, formerly of MAGA Coalition. Several other people have confirmed that it was indeed James Brower, aka JB speaking.
JB deleted his Twitter account almost immediately, fortunately we saved much of it:
JB then started answering questions from the Twitter audience, naming names.
The person who originally shared these Discord logs publicly, Arturo Tafoya from Mexico aka Lestat aka Cheshire3301, has since taken them down. He admits to taking money and doing projects with Defango, but says that it was for a cryptocurrency project where he did work for someone else and Defango took a large amount of Lestat’s share for himself. Read about it in LARPWars Part 5, I saved the logs there.
JB’s Tweet Storm
A lot from JB was picked up by Google WebCache and archived. I will share everything saved, then discuss JB’s video with Defango.
JB’s Confession and Interview
JB took to the Defango and Leppo (Aquino PSYOP) show to tell his story. The start of this episode contains JB’s “coming clean” Periscope message.
To be fair JB did reach out to me via DM to say hello, I didn’t ask him to be on my channel but I guess he was offering me an opportunity. I commend him for coming forward with the truth, we have to support truth tellers and whistleblowers. It takes a lot in the modern age to admit publicly that you did wrong things which you regret.
It’s probably better for him to be on the #2 LARPer of the year’s channel to describe the LARP they played together to infiltrate and discredit a movement of Patriots encouraged to do their own research and not trust Fake News.
I’m told the video was scrubbed to remove some sort of bust-up with Doug Stewart. I haven’t seen that so I won’t comment on it…but if this rumor is true, it must have been juicy for them to edit it out.
Kudos to Janon for everything he’s shown of this story. He’s really dug and brought forth a great deal of evidence:
InfoWar Suicide Bombers
Was this the plan all along? LARPers as InfoWar suicide bombers? Infiltrate the #truth community, only to betray it when the Scooby Doo mask is ripped off and you realize you got tricked by low-life conmen.
You think they’re the greatest patriot of all time, creators of Q, whistleblowers, #MAGA to the core, part of the Trump campaign…and then it turns out you’ve been had, it was #All4aLARP. They were tricksters out for lolz, you were tricked into being just one of their herd of lolcows. Maybe you even believed in them so much you sent them a donation, superchat, subscription, or bought a t-shirt or coffee mug. You don’t just feel betrayed by the trickster, the damage is much greater: you feel the very things that made you like the movement enough to engage were themselves a betrayal. This is gaslighting at its most brutal, with no regard to the mental health consequences for the victims – or even the perpetrators, if you believe JB’s recent contrition.
Sure, the LARPer may discredit themselves once they come out…but they can always adopt a new persona, switch to the other side politically, repent with a mea culpa and perhaps a twelve step program then reinvent themselves. Or go on the Defango channel for a round of hi-fives.
Who Introduced the Spoofers?
Defango said JB’s faking the Discord logs cost him his friendship with Jack Posobiec. “If the logs were faked it means that JB and Doug Stewart lied to me and Glen”. Glen Herman, formerly of MAGA Coalition, dismisses Posobiec as a LARPer and “cable news”. He says he knows Jack on a personal basis, that Posobiec is best friends with Roger Stone and “these are not the kind of people to be trifled with…they were up to various kinds of trickster tricks in 2016 and I know Defango was too”.
Defango said that Justin McConney (who taught Trump to Tweet) was the one who “brought me those assholes” and that OANN “decided not to go with anything I told them about”. Glen believes nobody instructed Posobiec to cover QAnon, instead the LARPer Posobiec would have had to fight his bosses to get a Q story on air.
Defango screams to JB “why would you do this to me? Why? Why would you use me right after these other fucks used me? My story…I knew something was up from the beginning when you guys dropped those other videos I thought there was really no way that anyone would spend the time to actually fake that shit”.
Defango obviously does not realize that this statement, made by him on his own channel, completely proves false his story to have been one of the people in Discord creating Q with these guys.
He’s saying now just that the logs were faked, which I have to credit Unirock for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt – and Praying Medic too.
BuzzFeed speculated that Q was a LARP to ridicule Trump supporters:
Did Posobiec get catfished by these LARPers? Or is he part of the team behind these psychological warfare operations against domestic targets?
Jack Posobiec told us there was no such thing as chat logs on XBox and PlayStation, because games don’t have chat. This was wrong. Then he told us that Microchip’s Discord logs were real, and proved the origins of Q as related to AntiFa and the Luther Blissett collective. This was wrong.
These people are disinformation agents.
QAnon warned us about “Paytriots”, particularly naming MAGA Coalition.
This led to a declaration from MAGA Coalition that they were going to “Sue Q”, which seemed strange given their relationship to Defango.
All along Defango has been saying that he created Q and was one of the characters in Discord when all this happened “turdbo”. Now he has been featured by fellow #QSlayer Will Sommer as a “notorious Internet provocaturd” in the Daily Beast’s article Right Wing Activists Discussed Wiretapping Seth Rich’s Family.
We have another member of this crew, “Spiccy”, confessing to being Turdbo.
When Microchip recreated the Discord he spent a full day creating an app. He is a mobile app developer in real life:
The date of this chat between JB & Microchip (Sep 2018) matches up with their #MuhDiscord LARP with Defango, Jack Posobiec and Jason Bermas. It’s possible that Bermas/We Are Change was merely a “useful idiot” in promoting this #QSlayer LARP, exploited by the others; I note without judgement his long history with InfoWars since at least 2007.
JB said that he was surrounded by a group of people where “disinformation is how you get ahead” from 2016-2020. They were told “Never Trumpers and the Left are doing this” to justify their shady operations. They did things that weren’t illegal, but were unethical. He has screencapped a lot of what happened in their chats and was ready to go public, but he hasn’t “turned total AntiFa like some have”. He specifically names Cassandra Fairbanks, Jack Posobiec, Mike Cernovich, Jacob Wohl and Mike Tokes as disinformation operatives of the worst kind.
Guccifer, Guccifer 2.0…Mafia 2.0?
JB says that Guccifer was a real Russian hacker. Why even bring the name up? Seems like he may have been hinting at his involvement with the Guccifer 2.0 psyop.
There have been attempts to link Guccifer 2.0 to alt-right mastermind Chuck Johnson.
However it seems more likely to have originated within the DNC, to cover up devastating actual leaks of their emails to WikiLeaks.
Guccifer was a real hacker, he was Romanian and did jail time for hacks which included establishing Colin Powell and Tony Blair’s attendance at Bohemian Grove. Hillary Clinton consulted with Powell on how to run a secure Blackberry system outside of the State Department – the DNA of the Awan Bros/George Webb operation. Alex Jones famously snuck into Bohemian Grove and obtained video of their event; Kevin Spacey’s scheming political character Frank Underwood attended a Grove-like ceremony before becoming President.
Guccifer 2.0 was a LARP. The FBI never inspected the DNC server, and the company hired to do so, Crowdstrike, recently admitted they had no evidence that there was any Russian hacking and the evidence they did have suggested a local file copy, such as to a thumb drive. George Webb (speaks Russian) used to work alongside Crowdstrike founder Dmitri Alperovich (born in Moscow). Both men worked for John McAfee, whose software is deeply embedded in intelligence agencies and the military. Just 2 weeks after George Webb and Jason Goodman launched their “Dirty Bomb Maersk Memphis” unconventional cyber-attack, the Maersk shipping line was hit with a more conventional cyber-attack, a virus…originating out of Ukraine.
Crowdstrike were caught in a previous case of “disputed intelligence” involving, you guessed it, Ukraine. They came out with a report about the FANCY BEAR system they attributed to Russia – the same one they blamed for the DNC hacks. It’s in the Mueller Report. They were accused of misrepresenting information by an influential UK thinktank and the Ukraine Defense Minister. Later Crowdstrike had to walk back key details of their Ukrainian reporting and clarify that they are based in Silicon Valley not Ukraine.
Ukraine was where Malaysian Airlines flight MH-17 was shot down, following the mysterious vanishing from radar of their MH-370 – allegedly with 20 executives from radar and defense company Freescale Semiconductor on board. Freescale is a division of the Carlyle Group, whose shareholders include the Bush family and the Bin Ladens. The Malaysian leader had been publicly critical of a particular country, and there were many links between the mysterious two airliner disappearances, said country, and even the Rothschilds who were once declared the owners of said country and even built its pyramid-shaped Supreme Court on Rothschild St. LARPer Field McConnell of Abel Danger, frequent guest on Jason Goodman’s channel and recently jailed in Wisconsin for online harassment and extradited to Florida, was involved in the Malaysian Airlines story. He went on Crowdsource the Truth to reveal that the attack on the USS Liberty was an American “self harming” operation launched by Lyndon B Johnson. Typically, evidence for this was not presented; even Haaretz had doubts about this story, noting that Israel apologized and paid compensation. These facts don’t meet the standard of “truth” on Crowdsource the Truth…but I digress.
I note in passing that the “Russian Troll Farm” we hear so much about, IRA, was exposed as a US intelligence operation by The Saker.
The Mueller report refers to servers in Arizona. Do we know any “hackers” or LARPers who were in Arizona in 2016, may have been connected to the DNC, NGP Van, Seth Rich, Kim Dotcom, John McAfee?
LARP Teams to Infiltrate Q
JB was called #QAnon within a week of the operation’s launch, by Jordan Sather:
How did Sather know?
Brower was making tweeets around the time, hinting that he was Q. This is far from proof, especially given now he’s confessed he was just shitposting.
JB describes Twitter “verified chat rooms”, where a large number of participants can be co-ordinate to share information – and, as it turns out, misinformation and disinformation.
This all seems to place Sather squarely on the same side of QAnon as JB, Jack Posobiec, Defango and #MAGA Coalition. By promoting “Q = Brower” from the start, he was promoting the LARP.
Sather was held up to be the “fall guy” for #QAnon on Jim Jefferies’ Comedy Central special. LARPers mix the narrative in with “JFK Junior is alive”, using Appeal to Ridicule to discredit genuine researchers who support the truth-based movement. For the record, Q says junior is dead. This is a red herring like Flat Earth, which was brought up by Sather in this segment.
JB repeats the claim he made previously on Defango’s channel “I fucken love shitposting”. He says Jack Posobiec approached him and others to create fake Facebook groups to get Elizabeth Warren positioned as the Democratic nominee.
Jacob Wohl’s “Cougar Op” seemed to be one of the LARPs created by this #FakeMAGA squad to achieve this objective.
Isis in Las Vegas?
JB was featured on InfoWars as a “former trump campaign official”. He was one of the first people to report on Isis materials being found with the Las Vegas shooting. He admits that this was also a LARP and was not vetted properly by InfoWars.
See Is There a #PedoGate Connection to the 2017 Las Vegas Massacre? The Las Vegas event happened just a few weeks before the birth of #QAnon. Defango linked the two together, saying “I was just at that casino…was it predicted?”. Meaning that he was at the DEFCON hacker conference, where supposedly he launched Q to Dreamcatcher (JB) and Microchip in the presence of Posobiec and “a room full of people with higher level clearances than myself”.
A lot of the 4chan research crowd were not buying the official stories coming out of Las Vegas about this event. Suddenly the boards were swamped with all manner of conspiracy theories and disinformation, trying to disrupt the real research going on. All the LARPers started going on each others’ shows.
Defango has previously confessed his involvement in “the great hack” which has been linked to the creation of Cambridge Analytica, a group linked to the CNP (Steve Bannon, Mercers) and the Anglo-American establishment. Chavez says he was working for Brittany Kaiser who was running Facebook for Obama’s successful 2008 Presidential Campaign.
We know Defango helped on the Obama campaign. Why was he in New Mexico? Who else was connected to New Mexico and tight with the Clintons?
Was Defango couchsurfing in New Mexico at the Zorro Ranch?
#QAnon was a psyop launched on 4chan. Almost immediately – potentially even before its launch – it was attacked by infiltrators. Defango, JB, Microchip were all trying to say they were the creators of it. Info War suicide bombers, they attach themselves to the alt-right then blow up their personas and laugh at the casualties from over on the left. Feeling good, because #OrangeManBad, #Coronavirus bad, or whatever new outrage they need to justify these behaviors.
I don’t know if JB ever got paid for any of this stuff. But we know Defango did, quite a lot of money, by quite a few people – and he was paying others too. He is not a General in the Info War like Alex Jones, but he’s at least a Sergeant. He’s giving orders to lower-level henchmen. The way Defango was treated by JB suggests that Brower is at least a lieutenant, a rank above Defango and below Microchip.
A bunch of LARPers, throwing cryptocurrency around, hanging out in casinos, political operatives casting themselves as #MAGA while trying to infiltrate movements in order to discredit them. Involved with WikiLeaks, Seth Rich, the Vegas shooting, and many other LARPs. Performing School Plays, yiddish vaudeville. They tell you that they are doing it while they are doing it, black magicians friendly with Michael Aquino casting spells for shekels.
Were these other guys participating in IARPA projects too? Any FBI informants in this bunch? DEA operatives? Asking for a fren.
JB came back, posted some more, and seems to have disappeared again (or maybe he blocked me after this post)
He also did a “Defango vs Unirock” 5 hour+ stream at the same time – starting the New Year by starting fights with other channels. Not clickbait: Dickbait.
Start the Lie Counter
Mr Chavez began with this February 2018 video he made claiming to be my friend.
He repeated on his new show the claim made in this older video that any bad ideas about him were put into my head by Nathan Stolpman from Lift the Veil, a show I’ve been on several times. This is false. My ideas about Defango have been formed by watching him for years, and observing as his narratives shift with the winds; not to mention being the target of his threats and malicious public smears designed to damage my reputation and future earning capabilities.
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He neglected to mention a key detail: that the video was made at the home of notorious Steemit troll Frank Bacon, who can actually be heard off-camera during the clip. Defango asks him “what are those things I was supposed to say, Bacon?” Even this video of friendship was clearly not genuine, something scripted by psyop fiction writers.
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Frank Bacon claimed credit for a devastating hack which forced the closure of a cryptocurrency business I was involved with, and threatened to hack this site also – all because he didn’t like what my guest Queen Tut said about him when I interviewed her for CryptoBeast #16, one of the more controversial podcasts I have done.
Defango stayed at Frank Bacon’s house in New Mexico for 3 days on his way to 60 days sharing a hotel suite with Thomas Schoenberger, allegedly financed by WellTraveledFox, as part of Operation SHADOWBOX (see our multi-part LARPWars series).
The chronology told by Bacon of Defango being at his house matches with the friends video. Unfortunately nothing else in his story does.
Silentpartnerio posted an “Introduce Yourself” Steemit post:
The triple brackets is reminiscent of the ((( ))) which is considered hate speech by the anti-anti-Semitism squad.
The metadata for this post shows a creation date of December 7, 2017.
The introductory post by Sophia Musik was dated February 17, 2018. The account creation date is Feb 16. Since the “friends” video was posted February 1, either Defango was at Frank Bacon’s house for more than 2 weeks that February, or Bacon is not telling the truth.
Perhaps we shouldn’t mix up Frank Bacon’s lies and hacking with Defango’s lies and hacking. It does seem like an example of the old adage “birds of a feather flock together”.
Defango then pointed to a post here by guest writer Terry Gotham, who wrote many posts for us about harm reduction on the party scene. Defango said he had met two of the people mentioned in the post – confirming the authenticity of our articles.
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Around the 13 minute mark Defango criticized my reporting as “one sided”. First of all, I’ve never claimed to be a reporter. I’m a researcher and this is my blog. The entire purpose of this blog is to share opinions – not just mine, others are welcome here too. All the posts that Defango singled out in his video to object to contain quotes from other people as well as my own analysis and interpretation.
Those who have been following here over the years have seen many opinions critical of me expressed in the comments – and not deleted, like many “truthers” do. We’ve also had guests posts from nearly 3 dozen different people. I have no problem doing interviews with people who present other viewpoints than my own – for example David Livingstone in CryptoBeast #14 or more recently John Brisson from We’ve Read the Documents.
Defango’s statement that the information presented here is “one-sided” is clearly false. What I think he really means is it’s not “his side”, which I discount because he is a charlatan.
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He said that there are 21 articles about him, and that the first one was the Mysterious Death of Isaac Kappy on May 14, 2019. His narrative changes from “Steve didn’t like me because of Nathan Stolpman” to “Steve didn’t lile me because of Isaac Kappy”. He conveniently forgets the threats he made to me in December 2018, including that I would have “the worst year of my life”.
In fact there are 22 posts about him (23 counting this one), with the first mention of him I can find on this site being February 2 2018 where I referenced his friendship video in a post about Quinn Michaels’ Burning Man claims.
I thought nothing of it at the time, but through the lens of hindsight it really seems unlikely to have been a coincidence that Quinn made a video about Burning Man the same day that Defango made a video about knowing lots of Burners and wanting to be my friend.
Defango was also mentioned in December 2018 in our story about Jason Goodman. He should know this because he objected to it at the time, saying it contained information he had presented before. Nobody else said that and he hasn’t been able to provide a citation, but I did update the story with his comments and added a photo credit for the Jason Goodman “superman shirt” photo.
So Defango was wrong about the number of posts (22 not 21) and wrong about when he was first mentioned (Feb 2018 not May 2019).
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Defango made a couple of other statements that have really nothing to do with me, yet are still demonstrably false.
“Nothing ever happened with RDS other than he paid me $500 to say I’m sorry”.
Here is evidence of just some of the entanglements between Robert David Steele, Manuel Chavez, and attorney Steven Biss and his wife. This has been raised by Jason Goodman in a Motion to Disqualify Counsel in the Eastern District of Virginia.
Robert David Steele was introduced to Tanya Biss by Nora Maccoby, whose family is connected to #PizzaGate in various ways. Nora was in touch with Jan Irvin in 2017 (see Debunking Jan Irvin).
Note the reference to Tanya’s network in Virginia.
It appears that around May 2017, all these players seemed to get connected to each other: Defango, Robert David Steele, Frank Bacon, Steven & Tanya Biss, George Webb, Jason Goodman, Jerome Corsi, Trevor Fitzgibbon, Trish the Dish, WellTraveledFox, White Rabbit, Thomas Schoenberger, Michael Levine. Other players floating around with connections to this group and/or their operations around that time include Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich, Roger Stone, Tracy Beanz, Praying Medic, Jack Posobiec, Lee Stranahan, Quinn Michaels, Lift the Veil, Doug & Tyla Gabriel of American Intelligence Media.
Is this the network Steele referenced?
Less than a week after the Port of Charleston Dirty Bomb LARP, Defango was presented to Steele by Tanya as a leader in the truth community and asked to suggest other channels. Steele wanted to present a list of truthers everyone should watch, based on what a couple of stoners watched. Is this the “Open Source Intelligence” approach?
Defango says he interviewed Robert David Steele on his show three times. All his Steele interviews on his channel have been set to private, possibly in relation to Defango’s role as a key player in contact with both Plaintiff and Defendants in Steele’s Virginia lawsuit against Jason Goodman (see LARPWars Part 2 – Moving the Goalposts).
Robert David Steele’s own web site lists three appearances on Defango’s channel:
For some reason he does not list his interview with Defango which took place on 2 December 2017.
Many felt that this epic final interview, where Defango hung up on Steele, was just another LARP. Some of the video has been preserved, along with a post-game interview with Lift The Veil.
So “ex” CIA guy Steele appeared on his show 4 times, not 3.
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After this, he was paid $500.
So by his own admission, Robert David Steele was paying Defango. Some would say extortion money, some would say apology tip – although it’s not clear Steele ever publicly apologized.
In May 2019, Defango blamed Steele for calling the police to visit him in Carson City, NV. Allegedly Tanya Biss actually made the police report for harassment.
Then in January 2019 Defango used his control over the Sophia Musik Steemit account to publish an attack piece on Steele and other truther channels, seemingly designed to trigger tension between Steele and Thomas Schoenberger.
Mr Chavez’ involvement with Mr Steele was clearly much, much more than an apology for one interview. They were setting him up to be the “tip of the spear” in the lawsuit against Jason Goodman, which has triggered Goodman to file a Motion to Disqualify and call for Steven Biss to be disbarred.
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It’s worth pointing out that Defango had a similar public pseudo-feud recently with someone who allegedly tried to recruit him into a “Jewish Defense League” to use #GayOps tactics to deplatform and demonetize opponents of the Motherland.
Swift moves were then made to create the optics of separation:
Things escalated dramatically, resulting in people losing their channels and social media accounts:
Is this real? Or more LARPing?
Defango also stated that FknFreddy refused to go on his show, saying “I’m going on someone else’s show that’s not a psyop”
Here is evidence leaked by Lestat (see LARPWars Part 5) of Discord chats with Defango which indicate Freddy did want to work with Defango:
For some reason, Defango then started talking about Vegan Mikey and Random Rants of Ryan. He alleges that Ryan doxxed Unirock and HoneyBee paid for the doxx. I asked Ryan about it and he said that he did not doxx Unirock but put some limited information out about his partner Unirach.
Ryan declined to answer whether HoneyBee paid, but he did previously admit that he paid for a private investigator himself to investigate Mikey.
[UPDATE Jan 16 2020 8:02am]
Defango has presented evidence confirming his story – Unirock was doxxed at the same time, and Honey Bee paid for the doxx. We will remove one from the score.
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Defango said Vegan Mikey wasn’t relevant so he refused to have him on his show. This is a classic example of gaslighting from Defango. He sets his video to private then pretends it never existed in the first place. He interviewed Vegan Mikey on his show on July 23 2019, even though Mikey had been specifically warned about “certain people” by Isaac Kappy. We now know that Defango met with Gabe Hoffman in person in June 2019 in Florida.
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Next Mr Chavez repeats his claims that I doxxed him after he filed a dozen false copyright strikes with Vimeo. The strikes were false because he never followed through with a lawsuit, which he would have lost anyway under Fair Use provisions. Defango mistakenly thinks that video has to be transformed to fit under a Fair Use exemption.
I spent several days writing the post #QAnon Part 1 Blind Items Revealed – #All4aLARP? I included carefully edited clips of Defango and his guest Dreamcatcher which were referred to throughout the post. As soon as I published the post, I noticed that the video clips came up blank. I checked my email and saw I had received a dozen strikes from Defango. I edited the post and included one of the emails from Vimeo to explain what had happened. Defango then contacted me and objected to his address details being shown, explaining (to my amazement) that he had actually put his home address down for a #GayOps attack. I immediately redacted the information and apologized.
If it is doxxing how can it be sent in an email from a large corporation like Vimeo? Defango agreed to their terms when filing his 12 strikes, which specifically includes consent to share his details with third parties. He posted the information to Pastebin, leaving it up there even after I had redacted it. If he was as concerned for his personal safety as he acts, why would he voluntarily put the information on the open Internet?
In rehashing this past episode, he did not point out anywhere I lied. Rather, I acted like a gentleman and removed the information on his request. Deafngo says this “shows the Luciferian nature of his thought form, he’s all about doxxing people and hurting them”. If it was malicious why would I apologize and remove it? I’d just leave it up.
He claimed that 80,000 people had seen his personal details. In fact the post has been seen 3,461 times in total. His details were not in the original post that was emailed to our subscribers. They were in one of the earlier post-publishing edits, and only for a few hours on the first day it was published. At most perhaps a few hundred people saw it, not 80,000. Defango has never shown evidence that anything happened as a result of this, although one time he tried to claim he was sent a large number of pizzas.
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About 40 minutes in Defango says that he has made “countless hours of video supplanting every piece of information he’s ever put out”. Most of the information I’ve put out on this blog and at my YouTube channel has never been discussed in any of his videos. This was his big chance to give us a list of whatever information I’ve put out that he claims was false. I think we have to assume that he tried his best but there’s nothing else; if he had anything more he would have used it.
In fact, he supplanted zero pieces of information that I put out.
The next claim was the use of subliminal messaging of a Skull and Bones in the start of Defango’s video about Isaac Kappy. He showed it, acted incredulous, then acknowledged that it was true and Lestat created the graphics for him.
Proving something I said is true has to count against Defango somehow, so let’s call that a minus one on the scoring.
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He points to some tweets of Thomas Schoenberger fighting back against Defango and his crew’s allegations against him with evidence. The tweets are no longer available as that account got shut down. Defango says this means there was no evidence.
The Twitter account being missing because of his gang’s #GayOps to silence TS does not show that I lied about anything. The original tweets are visible from the Wayback Machine:
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Around 44 minutes he says that I never referenced his narrative in this post. The post was written the day we learned about Isaac Kappy’s death, May 14 2019 in the US. The narrative that Defango had at the time was specifically referenced, as you can see in the screenshot above. Later his narrative changed, but it would be impossible for me to reference that since it was in the future at the time of writing.
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The next article he discussed is Debunking Jan Irvin. Defango’s name came up in relation to attorney Steven Biss, who claimed in a phone discussion broadcast on the Defango show to be his attorney. He has also been the lawyer for Robert David Steele (in his case against Jason Goodman), Timothy Charles Holmseth, and Devin Nunes.
Defango acknowledges “that’s actually true”.
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The next discussion is about whisper campaigns. Defango denies trying to mislead Titus Frost with accusations that I am a pedophile. The basis for this claim is that “hot dog” is pedophile code, something that originated on 4chan and has never been confirmed with an actual source. For example, it does not appear in the FBI List of Pedophile Symbols that was published on WikiLeaks and is used as a reference by #PizzaGate researchers. Nor is it in the list of pedo codewords at Urban Dictionary.
Once again, Defango gaslights his audience by denying something exists while displaying it on screen. Titus himself has told the story on his channel several times, as well as in the comments shown:
Defango says “Titus never put out that I was talking to him” and “where’s the evidence I was messaging anyone or running a whisper campaign”. The evidence is right there, the person who received the private messages from Defango is telling us exactly what was said to him. Mr Chavez could not make these accusations to me directly because of course they are completely false. Like every other accusation Defango has made against me, there is not the slightest piece of evidence for it.
He states of Fiona Barnett“girl hasn’t been able to prove a single one of her claims with evidence”. Fiona actually went to the police and spent two days giving them her statement. She also gave testimony under oath to a Royal Commission for two hours in 2013. Her testimony was taken extremely seriously in the Australian Senate:
Fiona wrote a post Unnecessary Evidence which provided true evidence against the spurious claims made in the dossier.
Her claim that Nicole Kidman’s psychiatrist father Antony collaborated with famous CIA doctors is verifiably true.
Fiona Barnett first started speaking out about organized pedophilia in 2004. She collected evidence from multiple parents and victims including witness statements and sent it to Australia’s Prime Minister, who wrote back thanking her.
How many of the people bad-mouthing Fiona Barnett on the internet because “she can’t have been raped by Walt Disney” (something she never said) have ever actually looked into what she has said under oath?
The statement that Fiona Barnett hasn’t been able to prove a single one of her claims with evidence is clearly false.
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Later in that post, Defango’s name comes up in relation to his mate “The Priest”
Eliahi Priest aka Contact Zero is part of #InsigniaGate, an 8 chan LARP which was launched in conjunction with the infamous and ubiquitous LARPer Defango…These two LARPers seem to still be in cahoots, with Defango releasing a video today praising his “bro” and “friend” for his “legendary” cyber-attack which shut down the Australian parliament.
Around 56 minutes into his video, Defango tries to convince us the above statement is false, by proving that it is true.
He says there was an 8chan thread discussing #InsigniaGate, Defango posted a link to his show on that thread, then Eliahi called into the show and they ended up talking for 4 hours.
The title of the August 24 2018 show is Who is Eliahi Priest? Contactzero @Ensin17 Drop #liveDive D17 Qanon
Does that sound the way Defango described it? Why is he wearing a suit?
Although the drop is only 3 hours old (one hour into the show), Defango already has many different video clips of Eliahi cued up to play.
Eliahi does call into Defango’s show in this launch episode, at 2:41:04. At 2:44:13 Defango says that he had called Kappy on the phone on an earlier live stream that day and asked him if he’d heard of Eliahi. How does that work if Defango was just learning about #InsigniaGate and meeting Eliahi for the first time on this later show? What would make Defango think Kappy was the guy to call about InsigniaGate? They only met for the first time a fortnight prior on August 8, and it wasn’t the most cordial interview, Kappy described it as “Isaac and Defango’s pissing contest”.
At 1:20:51 he says “it looks like the link of whatever was dropped was…hit some limit. i mean, it didn’t even seem like the damn drop has been able to be even be made yet, we’re supposed to be able to try to get this thing live, we literally just barely saw it.”
Defango asks “how is that working together?” His statement “we’re supposed to be able to try to get this thing live” sure sounds like people working together to me. Likewise, when someone comes on your show and you offer to introduce him to somebody else, that sounds like working together.
My statement that the #InsigniaGate LARP was launched by Eliahi in conjunction with Defango stands.
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Mr Chavez asks “what part of it is a LARP?” #InsigniaGate mixes real (but ancient) historical information from the Iran/Contra and BCCI/Nugan Hand scandals with “currency reset/secret global accounts” content from the “NESARA” LARP which has been running on the Internet for maybe 20 years. Some of the things that make it particularly LARPy are Eliahi’s self-appointed role as an Ambassador to space aliens who believe that love between adults and children should be encouraged without any sense of shame. #YMMV.
Defango concedes “yes we’re both LARPers”. Another true statement confirmed.
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Mr Chavez says of this section “he’s not reporting, he’s just taking digs at me”. Another falsehood.
The post is packed with primary source evidence, much of which had never been reported on the Internet before. None of it has been challenged in almost 2 years now. The only thing in the post that could remotely be construed as a “dig” at Defango is the statement “these two LARPers”, but he conceded that this is accurate.
Defango’s main objection here relates to the “Muh Discord logs”. These were first publicized by Jack Posobiec, who Defango claims was at DEFCON in a “room full of people with higher clearances than myself” when he first proposed the idea that became #QAnon.
Defango asks “if it’s good enough for Jack Posobiec why isn’t it good enough for Outtrim”?
John Michael Posobiec III’s Wikipedia page describes him as an “alt-right Internet troll and conspiracy theorist”. He makes no secret of his intelligence background and his love for Zionism.
Jack Posobiec claimed that there was no such thing as chat logs on XBox and PlayStation, showing he is not an authority on technology.
Posobiec claims to have known who was writing the Q posts at the start of the operation, so he’s not exactly an independent source.
Ironically, the “move to 8 chan” where he feels #QAnon became anti-Semitic is widely considered by most of the truth community to be when the Israelis took control of the operation, spearheaded by Jason Goodman’s handler mentor Dr Jerome Corsi.
Mr Chavez says that the Discord logs shown by Posobiec were forensically examined by the New York Times and signed off as authentic. Where is his citation for this? I can’t find anything on their web site.
The New York Times published What is QAnon (Aug 1 2018), but this makes no mention of any Discord logs.
Firstly, they used the “stock image” time and icon configuration for an iPhone screen.
This video shows how easy it is to fake Discord logs:
So easy that someone did it just to prove a point:
In Posobiec’s Discord drop a post was shown where the date in the URL was later than the date on the post.
Microchip explained this as a “glitch”, but I can’t say I’ve ever noticed something like that on Discord before.
If you slow the video down to the slowest speed on YouTube, you can see “September 14” change into “September 16” in real time around the 2 second mark. But this makes no sense, because there was no post on September 14. Computers don’t just make up random dates to show on screen, glitch or no glitch.
To my amateur, untrained eye this video looks like they made a new one with the date corrected, then edited the two videos together so that it goes from 14 to 16 from one frame to the next.
Defango says “there’s no way this evidence doesn’t stack up”, but I’m not so sure it would be Court admissible. Could it be verified by an independent expert? Could opposing counsel get a copy of the logs – or just these video clips? Why couldn’t Microchip film his phone from another device, or his computer from his phone?
The follow up videos really show nothing convincing, which in my opinion makes the whole thing even more suspicious.
If they showed the post which originally had the date glitch, and it no longer had the glitch because the version of Discord had been updated, that would be something. If they showed it scrolling through the chat log like the original video, that would also be something. If he used his phone to film himself logging into Discord on his iPad or computer, going to the group where this discussion was and scrolling through the chat to show the messages about creating Q, that would be pretty convincing. He’s done none of that.
Microchip claimed that he had Telegram and WhatsApp messages that he would be releasing also. These have never seen the light of day, it’s been almost a year and a half now.
JAnon, a friend of Microchip and JB from before they launched the Q psyop, says this is because the FBI started looking into Q and they had to delete all records of their LARP.
The problem for Defango with promoting Microchip’s version of events is he was not part of the operation. He has not been able to produce one piece of evidence of his own involvement – a far cry from his claim on Lift the Veil and elsewhere that he had written “more than half” the questions of the original Q.
Defango has also been caught lying many times as he has re-told his Q origin story, such as here where he claimed to be one of the 3 founders “Turdbo”:
Around 1 hour 11 of his video “debating” me, Defango refers to Turdbo as a separate person – proving that I was correct in my earlier analysis that he was lying about being Turdbo.
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Turdbo is in fact someone called Spicci. Defango now says that not only was he the original Q, but also that he was the original Turdbo.
We’re supposed to believe these LARPers could create a movement that engaged millions of people worldwide, but they couldn’t create their own Discord account? #SoundsLegit.
JAnon’s version of events is documented with some evidence and makes sense. The connection to Trump initially was through Ezra-Cohen Watnick.
I know who Wyatt is talking about here, and they are definitely a candidate for being part of the Q team. I’m not going to name the person though, as there is no evidence.
The problem with this entire theory is the enormous number of QProofs.
OK, I get that maybe they knew people like Ezra or Justin or maybe Sarah Huckabee Sanders or maybe even Kush – in the beginning. Through that they got some sort of hint about the Saudi purge about to go down.
How was most of the world taken by complete surprise by the Mueller report, while Q followers already knew what to expect? This seems far more than the work of a couple of Defango’s mates out trolling on the chans and making some memes.
The “Zero Delta” where Q posts something and then the President tweets the same thing at the same minute has been explained away as a technical hack whereby tweets from President Trump’s account can be obtained near-instantaneously through the API while they take a few minutes to be distributed to his 70 million followers. I’m not sure if that is true or not, it sounds plausible but the Zero Delta is far from the only Q proof at this point.
Q is coming up on 4000 posts so far and has been attacked by the Mainstream Media all around the world – yet no journalist will ask President Trump a question about it, and Trump will not say anything to dismiss it. Why is that? #All4aLARP?
Even if you accept JAnon’s version of events as true, and the Discord logs as 100% legitimate despite glitches and lack of verifiability – there is still more to the story than that. See #Q Part 2 – Aleksandr Qgin and the Qouncil for National Policy for my opinion of the “big picture” underpinnings of this infowar operation.
Defango did not demonstrate any lie from me; I will reserve judgement on his claim about the New York Times forensically examining the Discord logs until he produces some evidence of that.
The example Defango gave of the Discord logs proves that his own story that he was the creator of the Q psyop to be a lie. There is nothing in these logs about DEFCON. The idea is formed by Microchip on August 18, based on discussions of Luther Blissett’s book on AntiFa boards. It shows Microchip coming up with the idea of using the Socratic Method (teaching by asking questions).
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The next item highlighted by Defango was a tweet from Scott Adams.
Defango says this was being used to attack him – always the victim. He got into the fight with the Dilbert creator himself, due to his “exposing” Twitter philanthropist Bill Pulte who is giving millions of dollars away to random people. They say no good deed goes unpunished, and Defango sees himself as the punisher.
His team-mates joined in on this one:
There is nothing there that could be remotely construed as an attack on Defango by me – it’s Scott Adams calling him dumb and evil. I was just speculating that this may have been the reason why Defango’s other Twitter accounts had been terminated. His frequent account suspensions are his own responsibility for violating Twitter’s Terms of Service, not anybody else’s.
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Defango then moves on to his video about “Flynn L1ves”. He is gaslighting again, pretending he never said the things in his video that i wrote an entire post about.
What was debunked? You didn’t debunk anything. My story of the creation never changed. Flynn lives injected themselves into the movement . Shows us an error in judgement. Flynn and all these guys changed their information to be in line with q to say they created it
That is not at all the story he told in his Oct 10 2019 video. Watch the video and/or read the post to see for yourself. It completely debunks him. Why did he take it private? He only made it public again to discuss it in his video about me. It shows him collaborating and sharing documents with fugitive masturbator Timothy Charles Holmseth.
At 1 hour 18 Defango says “we’re proving that Steve is lying”. This is in itself a lie; he has not proved a single lie, and we’ve been counting.
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At 1 hour 21 he says that “MAGAco is paying Defango” has been debunked. All he has said is that he gave money to MAGAco PAC, then they return it to him by sponsoring his livestreams with many $100+ Ninjets. He says “all this is recorded on the blockchain” – great, post the transactions!
Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he will produce the evidence he claims to have, and not count this as a lie. Still, giving money to a PAC and then the PAC returns the money to you via cryptocurrency donations to your live streams sounds somewhat shady.
At 1 hour 22 Defango says “he never discussed Cicada taking over Q in this article”. This is false, it is in Part 1. We know he has read Part 1 because he gave me a dozen fake copyright strikes for it.
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Finally, at 1 hour 23 he starts discussing his ties to the intelligence community.
He admits that it is true that he met the director of the Keyhole satellite program, and true that he participated in projects for IARPA. He neglects to mention his relationship with Robert David Steele, the Bisses, Eliahi Priest and others.
Now he downplays his connection to the Keyhole founder, but in his earlier video he is talking it up as further “proof” that he was part of the Q Team – because Q posted about Keyhole right around the time Defango met the founder.
His work for IARPA was clearly more than just signing up for an online study:
Once again, rather than proving something here was false, Defango proved it was true.
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Defango was busted previously lying about the dates of his involvement with IARPA’s Project CREATE:
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Defango wraps up by saying:
“there’s issues with every single piece of reporting he’s done on me. We’ve been able to destroy him with his blog posts on his own. 21 different articles. The reporting is untrue”
This guy can’t help himself, he has to add another lie in the conclusion. Out of 22 articles, he only identified issues with 5 of them.
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His real issue is that pointing out his own statements and behavior does not cast him in a good light.
He had his chance to show what the issues are, but failed. Perhaps he has issues with some of the reporting, but he did not provide evidence to demonstrate a single thing was untrue. In fact, he confirmed 6 different statements here were true.
in the process of “destroying” me, he told at least 27 lies – all proven here, with evidence. He showed zero lies from me.
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There has been an interesting series of alt-media attacks on the #QAnon operation over the past few days. All for a LARP? Is this part of the latest Cicada puzzle? Or just the latest evolution of this vast and complex psychological operation?
On one side of the debate, we have Imperator Truth aka Titus Frost saying that “QAnon Is Proven As An Israeli Operation”.
On the other hand, we have two gentiles Defango and James Brower saying “we created Q with Microchip, whom we suspect is Mossad, to troll Christians”.
This post will also introduce a third narrative to the public discourse, that Q began as part of a puzzle that Cicada was creating; and a fourth narrative, my own – based on studying this psyop since its public debut at the end of October 2017.
This post is likely to be updated as more information comes to light.
My intention here is to present the facts and evidence. Based on past behavior, I expect I will be attacked for that by some of the participants. Hacked, doxxed, slandered, ridiculed – the usual “shoot the messenger” stuff. I invite anyone challenged by this post to prove me wrong. Not “say” I’m wrong: provide proof. Q has provided many proofs, hundreds now. Defango, Dreamcatcher and Microchip have provide a 50 second video of a Discord chat, which contains multiple anomalies. This was enough for WeAreChange to give them a platform, and enthusiastic public endorsement from Jason Bermas. While his co-host Luke Rudowski is copping tear gas and filming the EU army take to the streets of Paris, Bermas (connected to Loose Change) has become the latest alt-media personality to “finally debunk Q once and for all and to expose this LARP so it can no longer continue“. For Q followers, we’ve heard this story many times before from both the alt-media and mainstream media. Are these latest “revelations” – actually a rehash of the same information released last September – going to move the needle? Or will Q continue to grow in popularity as millions of fans worldwide of all ages do their own research and realize that the media and government are lying to all of us, all the time. Can this Internet-driven genie ever be put back in the bottle?
Q = Qnit 8200?
The information Titus is working from appears to have been fed to him by the Cicada 3301 crew.
One of the key assumptions being made is that “codemonkeyz.com” owned by Daniel Shir of Israel is the same as @CodeMonkeyZ, aka Ron Watkins the son of 8Chan co-founder Jim Watkins, who both live in the Philippines. The jury is still out on any connection between the CodeMonkeys, but the 8chan connection is significant.
Jim took over 8chan from Frederick Brennan, aka “Hot Wheels”, a 4-chan user who founded it.
Jim’s adopted son Ron, aka CodeMonkeyZ is one of the admins for the 8chan QAnon boards, and the site in general.
He denies having anything to do with Q (I feel like I have seen him interviewed on InfoWars or Patriot Soapbox or one of the Q channels, but I haven’t been able to find a link to verify that).
Ron is working on a secure anonymous message board technology, which coincidentally (?) was the main goal of Project MAYHEM 2012’s #TYLER system (for more about that see here). How will they stop the kind of child pornography that is being generated all around them in the Philippines from being disseminated through their “impregnable castle” of anoynmous free speech?
I don’t believe there is any connection between these two codemonkeyz, I contacted War the original tweeter to ask him about it and he said he is still looking for further evidence to confirm it. #YMMV…but as we will see in this post, there sure have been a lot of Zionists involved in this operation.
Rather than being a member of the Zionist faction spearheaded by Jerome Corsi with his “Above Mossad” Israeli intelligence sources, CodeMonkeyZ was called out by them:
“iWillRedPillU” was connected to The Goldwater and present at the birth of Q, according to Thomas from Cicada (more on them later)
The Q Debut
The #QAnon psyop launched shortly after the Las Vegas Massacre (see my coverage of that here), October 28 2017. Many people think that Q launched by saying “Hillary Clinton has been arrested” but in fact they said there was a motion for her extradition (to another country) and that her passport had been flagged.
Hillary showed up shortly thereafter with an ankle boot that she wore for 2 months, because she either broke her toe or sprained her ankle (the narrative changed). Likewise Q target John McCain appeared with an ankle boot around the same time. His one shifted legs and then he was announced as dead with great fanfare. 30 days exactly since Q predicted he would be back in the news, saying “every dog has its day”, his death announcement was made on International Dog Day.
LARP by Trolls, or Carefully Planned Intelligence Operation?
I shared my opinion on Lift The Veil that Q was a psyop from the Trump team on November 22, 2017 (coincidentally the 54th anniversary of the deaths of John F Kennedy, Aldous Huxley, and CS Lewis).
I have tweeted with the #QAnon hashtag many times since. The people who follow that hashtag are the kind of people I want to interact with – instead of “Orange Man Bad” NPCs, they are patriots who distrust the media and do their own research. I support the Q operation because I support President Trump. The entire mainstream media is stacked against him, despite the fact that he is a big money earner for them. Look into the history of Operation MOCKINGBIRD and the recent explorations of AIM into the 100-year history of British propaganda operations against the US (videos at the end of the post).
There have been many proofs that Q is linked to Trump, not least of which has been the President unmistakeably making Q-shaped hand gestures in his rallies. There have also been unprecedented mainstream and alt-media attacks on the movement. All for a LARP?
Well Defango says, yes. He made a video saying he wanted to be my friend, but then became furious at me for saying he participates in LARPs. So much so that recently he threatened me.
I said he participated in LARPs because he found the Spear of Destiny by solving online puzzles on his YouTube channel. What is solving puzzles on the Internet by going to places in real life to collect fantasy items, if not an ARG? I have a friend who’s into geocaching, that is a LARP. Pokémon Go? ARG: which = LARP. Defango is one of the main players in most of the YouTube Live Action Role Plays. He dresses up in costumes, dances, raps, takes vape hits, and operates his cellphone while driving. All in the name of…truth?
Defango has created an alternate channel called “LARP Wars”, and opens his videos on his main channel with “LARPers Paradise” graphics. And he claims to have created Q with James Browder and Microchip, as LARPers who were deliberately seeking new LARPs to troll people with.
Defango In His Own Words
Defango’s narrative is always shifting, and often contradicting. He actually says this is deliberate, he is sharing information with us in a non-linear fashion. I see it as part of the puzzle – he speaks truth mixed with lies, if you are able to discern the truth from the various “crumbs” he drops out, you can piece together a complete picture of what really happened.
Unfortunately for him, none of the other people involved have been able to effectively confirm his tales. We have no real evidence that Dreamcatcher is James Brower, or that either he, Turdbo or Microchip ever posted with Q’s tripcode. He told us Microchip was Justin McConney, then a few days later Microchip specifically denied that. Microchip said more evidence was coming than a 54 second video of some Discord chat, but this has not come out. Posobiec said he was getting more Discord logs, but he’s never published anything but Microchip’s video. We’re just taking the word of people who admit to being trolls and LARPers and agents.
I share here a selection of brief clips edited from Defango’s videos, I doubt any one person is able to watch every minute of every multi-hour stream he does, so please comment if there are any key details he revealed that I’ve left out.
Defango was a member of Cicada 3301 before he got kicked out. Thomas from Cicada has shared his side of events. To his credit, he has provided a great deal more evidence to back up all the claims he is making than Defango has. He has given me permission to share the material below, and suggested I contact the people mentioned to verify. I reached out to H3llfir3 but did not get a response yet. H3llfir3 was mentioned by Defango in his interview with Jason Bermas.
The evidence is not perfect, in that we can’t see the date or confirm that it was sent by Defango. It sure sounds like him. I asked Thomas if he could give me any further confirmation details and he responded promptly with this:
It is not perfect evidence, if Discord logs can be forged then forwarded emails could be forged, and we don’t have the message headers which would give further confirmation. To me the evidence Thomas has produced for this story is credible and consistent. YMMV.
Thomas has said that Q was born on Twitter, not Discord:
Here’s the thing then we never got on any of the chans. We simply did one very quick post on the cicada website and it was only meant to be an homage to white rabbit But I was also in a large Twitter chat room, which included rabbit defango [NAME REDACTED] and others, and a guy named CJ was asking me a lot of questions about cicada. I also think that it took a full month between September 25th up until the end of October before there was any movement, so this substantiates two facts
The first is Manny did not create Q, and the second is even if he did post on 4chan that was a full month after cicada came up with a character called Q based upon White Rabbit. So Manny is wrong in saying that Q started as a LARP and that microchip and others were even in on the idea. Manuel was not involved with cicada in September or October in any creative development sense. And as far as [NAME REDACTED] and I, we had nothing to do with the development of 209 as a political psyop
Thomas said one of their fans got yelled at by Defango and gave them a heads up that he was trying to infiltrate Cicada:
A very nice English lady who was a fan of both my music and of Manuel Chavez show. Have lost a son and I believe Manuel had yelled at her on air. She came to us in September and told us that Manuel was trying to infiltrate cicada 3301. That’s why we took the necessary steps that we did to ensure is that our privacy is respected.
Thomas denies that he or Monty M ever posted on 4chan in relation to Q:
Neither Monty nor I were ever on 4chan to develop or promote Q. Understand that Defango has admitted that he plotted and acted on “infiltrating” us as far back as Match 2017.He was confident he had fooled us. We spoofed an email from “Monty” to a person who sent it to Defango and he bit hook line and sinker, You see, he has a 137 IQ, or so he claims. We just had to have a 138 IQ to outfox him. Its not rocket science.
Monty refers to Monty McGovern. This information seems to have been a “barium meal” trap, designed to catch leakers.
[NAME REDACTED] leaked the email to Defango and he gave this information to Titus Frost, who outed Monty McGovern as part of the original Q team. In fact, it is an old high school friend of Thomas who had nothing to do with either Cicada or Q.
Some further answers from Twitter:
Thomas has shown me private emails with Monty McGovern that confirm his story that this was someone he knew in junior high school, and they were both the top pianists in the school.
So Defango’s earlier comments that Thomas and Monty were the original Q posters on 4chan are false.
[Update 17/1/19 11:59am]
One of the people mentioned as part of this operation has asked for their name to be removed from this story, and has labeled it “misinformation”. Accordingly their name has now been redacted. Here is their statement:
“I had nothing do do with Q nor would I ever .. setting this up to look like I am involved is a way for certain people to discredit me. Asking to put Rabbit in a puzzle does not equate to Q In any reality. Plus, from experience I believe all are lying. I was never for one second involved in this.. and would never condone this.”
Thomas says that they created a puzzle involving the letter Q. One of their members went by “Z”. He says the “Follow The White Rabbit” was put in as an homage to one of their members, White Rabbit (famous from the “Who Spoofed the Seth Rich Files” LARP, starring #Clownsource The Truth’s Jason Goodman, George Webb, and, of course, Defango)
Now you want to know the comparisons. The character that we introduced as Q was simply going to be an extension of other characters we put into the puzzle, for instance like Z
We view slogans like remember the future, and this [QAnon] made a derivation and sold it as future proves past
In 2016 we posted that a fludd approaches. That was a play on both the future leaks to were to come [Warren Flood signature in Guccifer 2.0 leaks – Ed.]
In May of 2018 [QAnon] posted a flood is coming.
They steal our tropes and they don’t do it very effectively, or with any nuance, and that’s because their audience tense to be Evangelical and not used to subtlety.
I believe elements of unit 8200 became involved in the puzzle as soon as it went on to 8chan I think that they noticed the cicada 3301 was a powerful attractant to people I believe that elements of Israeli military intelligence correctly concluded that a cryptic deep throat would be perfect for this era of leaks and puzzles.
The problem is that they also stole our prophecy trope. Our prophecies come to pass.
Take for example the prophecy of March 14th 2018. We wrote Eagles rain fire on the canaanite Then we pointed to the merchants of wine and the sword of Lily. On April 8th, Israeli F-15s, commonly known as Eagles, and produced by McDonnell Douglas, did indeed rain fire on parts of Lebanon and Syria. Then of course there was the fall murder of the journalist khashoggi, and The Merchant of wine was a cloaked finger pointing at Saudi Arabia as the sort of Lily had to do with the assassination by sword in the land of Lily. Turkey.
We referenced the adopted sons of Jacob, referring to the khazars and this refer to Israel supplying the technology 4 Saudi Arabia to spy on khashoggi. The prophecy turned out to be 100% correct, as have earlier prophecies with cicada 3301. If you doubt me just go to YouTube and look up cicada 3301 Nostradamus.
Between you and me Steve I don’t have any idea how I do it. I’m not a terribly religious man and the stuff just comes to me in dreams oh, and I’m humbled by it I don’t ever charge money and other than that and playing some piano I’m pretty normal, and constantly lose my car keys, and make judgment mistakes as well LOL
He provided further evidence of Cicada correspondence at that time about the White Rabbit. Rabbit did an interview with Lift The Veil, included at the end of this post.
The White Rabbit’s pinned Tweet claims the first use of #Q on Twitter, in November 2015.
Cicada does have a track record of prophecies in their puzzles which came true, just like QAnon. Can Defango’s LARP team say the same?
The Vampire Lestat
During Defango and Dreamcatcher’s interview with Jason Bermas of WeAreChange, Lestat was very vocal in the chat, begging for Defango’s attention. Defango grouped him in with all his other detractors in the live chat, which included Thomas S, Lestat, and (alleged) uber-nemesis Jason Goodman.
Lestat was also in the earlier interview with Dreamcatcher on Defango’s channel, saying “me and Defango created Q”.
Lestat’s dates don’t line up with any of the rest of Defango’s story – it’s before DEFCON, and long before Microchip and Dreamcatcher allege they came up with the idea. Why can’t Lestat log into Discord and show the logs? Why can’t he post any other evidence to support his claim? Unfortunately for him, not even Defango acknowledges it.
[Update 17/1/19 11:59am]
I’ve been informed that “Lestat” in the chat was not the same avatar as “Lestat” Arturo, former Cicada member. However I think it is still reasonable to assume that any comments Defango made about Lestat in the interviews were directed at Arturo Lestat, not fake Lestat.
[Update 18/1/19 7:29am]
This post is causing quite a storm on my Twitter feed, with accusations flying back and forth. I’m not going to post all of them but I am going to try to post clarifications, as we all try to solve this puzzle together.
First is Lestat denying he ever had anything to do with Q:
Then we Lestat saying he was working with Q as recently as May 2018, and confirming Thomas’s story of a Cicada 3301 link to QAnon:
Thomas sure has a lot of detractors out there, but he has provided more evidence than anybody else. Most of Thomas’s story has even been confirmed by his critics, who seem to agree on the basic facts but view events through a different lens. Lestat to his credit is also providing evidence, though a lot if it seems to be about Thomas’ character rather than the specific claims made in this article about QAnon. So far Lestat has not been able to prove his claims that Thomas can’t play piano and is not a co-founder of Cicada 3301 in 2012 with Bruce C Clarke, Jr and Ian Murdock. To disprove this he would need to find some other Cicada founders. Defango has also told a story of going to Thomas’s house and seeing an oak tree from Liber Primus, and Thomas showing him the graphics of the tree that were used. Once again, we have conflicting stories between Lestat and Defango.
Who Is James Brower?
Brower is a former Trump campaign staffer from Massachussets.
3 weeks before Q launched, October 6 2017, Brower had been on InfoWars trying to link the Las Vegas shooter to Isis. Later in their Discord logs (posted further down in this post), they admit that this was part of their trolling operations. It’s interesting that one of their small crew hits the big time but their appearance does not seem worth mentioning in their Discord chat, even though they brag about much smaller media coverage.
“Former Massachusetts Trump campaign official James Brower posted a series of tweets last night claiming he was leaked information about Paddock being inspired by ISIS to carry out the mass shooting. “There is a video, this video will prove the motive. He had a secret digital profile that was uncovered over the last 24 hrs,” claims Brower. “I’m being told the video basically speaks about a network, they wouldn’t tell me directly if it was ISIS but they threw little hints that it was,” Brower told Infowars. “The reason the video more than likely is never released is because they believe it will trigger the “cells” he speaks of,” according to Brower. “There should be a statement on motive soon,” he added, “They believe he was inspired by ISIS.””
Brower returned to Twitter after an unexplained absence, only to have his new account almost immediately shut down.
Who is Microchip?
Microchip claims to be a “major troll”. He got kicked off Twitter, as did James Brower (within about a day of his “resurfacing”).
The “further evidence” Microchip told us was coming in September 2018 has still not been produced. All we have is the one video, with anomalies.
[Update 17/1/19 8:41pm]
Information is coming in that Microchip’s true identity may be a troll named Baked Alaska. A “baker”? There’s quite a lengthy 2016 article about the guy here.
Microchip brags in their Discord video about operating on the Internet under fake names. He created a petition at whitehouse.gov in July 2016 to have Black Lives Matter declared a terrorist organization, which received more than 100,000 signatures. He did the same thing a year later and it got almost 400,000 signatures. He then used the same text to create a petition declaring AntiFa a terror group. This is they day before their Discord chat log video starts.
Defango claims that Microchip is Justin McConney, who taught Trump to tweet and came up with the idea for red “MAGA” hats. He was named by WIRED magazine in 2016 as the #3 most influential tech person in the 2016 election.
[QD023] McConney Was Social Media Director for the Trump Campaign
[QD025] McConney Profile Pic Is On Air Force One
[QD024] McConney and Brower Did It Perfectly, Defango Says I Told You So
[QD022] Defango Infiltrated AntiFa, Gave Q to Microchip on Behalf of Cicada
[QD021] Microchip Launches Gab Account in Dallas At Same Time Defango Is There March 28 2017
[QD019] Defango Says Microchip and Dreamcatcher Created Q
Looks like Defango is trying to get this post shut down before it even comes out. Will he and his crew try to crowdstrike my Vimeo account? We are quoting a public figure in his own words for non-profit discussion purposes, which is clearly Fair Use.
The Mighty Quinn
Defango had previously suggested Quinn Michaels was Q.
Issues In Interviews
Defango and James Brower seem to have some difficulty getting their story straight. Brower says he was Dreamcatcher, and was working with Microchip and Turdbo. Defango (watch the eye movements) quickly jumps in to say that he was Turdbo.
Then, towards the end of the video, Defango says he wants to talk to other members of their LARP, including Dreamcatcher. But according to the narrative they are trying to push, he’s just been speaking to Dreamcatcher for 45 minutes. Brower doesn’t bother to correct him.
In the video with WeAreChange, Dreamcatcher says he is Shitlord. Defango can’t believe he has revealed that information. There are a number of different meanings of the term “shitlord”, according to Urban Dictionary.
[QD027] Dreamcatcher is Shitlord, Watch Defango React
Links To Zionist Operations
Brower says that there is definitely something to the Israeli connection, and that Microchip has been spending time there. Defango says Microchip is Mossad.
Just weeks before launching this Q operation, James Brower was on InfoWars pushing the narrative that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was a member of ISIS.
Alex Jones promoted Q directly. InfoWars’ Washington DC Bureau Chief Jerome Corsi promoted Q directly. He has been involved in other recent LARPs such as the Port of Charleston dirty bomb hoax event conducted by Jason Goodman and George Webb, who were both promoted by InfoWars. Corsi’s lawyer Larry Klayman is another frequent guest on both InfoWars and Jason Goodman’s channel BSTheTruth.
Corsi, Jones, Goodman and Webb also spent a great deal of time pushing the “Seth Rich Files”. You may remember Defango’s involvement in this major LARP. Frequent InfoWars contributor Roger Stone was even in contact with “Guccifer 2.0”, who appears to be an artificial construct.
Alex Jones hosted “Baruch the Scribe”, “Pamphlet”, and Jordan Sather from the Q team. He also said “I know Q personally” and several times suggested that “Zach” was part of the Q team. The fingerprints of the Zionist Information War are all over this operation. But were they there from the beginning?
The Missing Puzzle Piece
At no time in the recent interviews do Defango and Brower mention Justin McConney. He is also absent from Titus Frost’s video. To me, he is the key piece of the Q puzzle. Every time Defango mentions his name, one of the other LARPers quickly comes onto his channel to “correct the record” (*ahem*). Defango’s story has changed from “I was volunteering for Trump in Arizona, how do you think I got to meet McConney” to complete radio silence about this guy.
If you believe the narrative Defango and his associates have presented, these guys were working as a “special ops” social media team on behalf of Trump. They had no qualms about deception, psychological manipulation, and (arguably) fraud. And (at least) one of them is always going to Israel and is probably Mossad.
Can you imagine being the guy who taught Trump to tweet, “unleashing the velociraptors”? That guy is inside the tent. He probably gets his own cabana at Mar-A-Lago. Trump’s use of Twitter has changed the world, and made his career. He doesn’t want to get his boss in trouble for an experimental fringe operation that ended up going viral and became an egregore beyond their ability to control.
Why would Defango name this gentleman, then never mention him again? The only reason I can think of is that this part of the story is true. It explains almost everything about the Q movement.
These “muh Discord logs” appeared on the scene a few months ago (September 2018), promoted by former Naval Intelligence officer and Guantanamo Bay prison guard Jack Posobiec – another frequent InfoWars guest and Zionist. Posobiec made a lot of noise about these Discord logs before he released them; when they came out, nobody was buying it. Defango and Dreamcatcher have not produced any further evidence to support their story in the past 4 months. The “evidence” that We Are Change and One America News Network are basing their Q stories on is these Discord chat logs.
Microchip recorded a video of him logging into the Discord server and posting a message. This was supposed to be evidence that they are legit.
Discord logs are easily manipulated. Go to the Discord App, click View, Developers, Toggle Developer Tools and you will see the console that gives you full control over the timeline, including a record function:
If you can film a video of yourself logging into a Discord server and posting to it, why not do that on a livestream? Why not just share a link to the Discord? To prove this story is accurate, Microchip, Dreamcatcher, and Turdbo should all do a livestream together, where each logs into that server and makes a post under their respective identities in real time. People in the chat can suggest words for each one of them to type.
This in itself was enough for people to dismiss this “bombshell evidence” that Posobiec produced, in communication with Defango and his troll team. The medium is the message, and when the medium of a messaging app is video and not the app itself, that is definitely a pretty significant message. However, there are even more anomalies – including a news article posted from the future.
Posobiec insists “it’s totally normal for Discord”, but this guy also insisted that XBox and Playstation don’t have chat. The easy fix would be to just log into the Discord on a live stream; if they can’t do that, then they would need to get some psyop guys to spread disinfo…
Q theirself commented on this, highlighting these peoples’ connections to Alex Jones and his associates. He also pointed out that the time on the phone does not change during the 54 second long video.
Q is responding to someone commenting on Mossad shills. In the Jan 14 2018 interview with We Are Change, Dreamcatcher (allegedly, James Brower) said that Microchip (allegedly, Justin McConney) was in Israel right now, and was always flying there because he was Mossad. For more information on the links between InfoWars and the Zionists, subscribe to Know More News (video at the end).
Defango says he quit the Discord and lost access to it. He never explains why they can’t just re-send the invite link to him. Seems like it would be kind of important. According to Dreamcatcher, the entire Discord server has been “lost”. Given how huge Q has become, and how significant the chat logs are to proving the association between these admitted LARPers and Q: how can that be? Are we supposed to believe these master hackers had a Discord server where they planned political trolling operations up until 4 months ago when Posobiec broke the story, then somehow accidentally deleted it and have no way to get it back?
[Update 17/1/19 2:06pm]
Unirock has done an excellent frame-by-frame analysis which proves conclusively that the date anomaly is not an accident, and also that these guys released 2 different versions of this video, one doctored to cover the date anomaly. Start at 20 minutes:
Praying Medic highlights how the time stays at 9:41 for the entire time of the video, which is not possible given the video itself is 54 seconds long; but not only that, “9:41” and 100% battery is in every Apple stock image for the iPhone. See the LARP coincidences piling up around this so called “evidence”?
Tripping On The Tripcodes
The “Q Tripcodes” are another piece of evidence that we’d expect to be there if this was real, but is missing from this latest LARP wave. Surely if Brower were Q, he could just write a post under Q’s Tripcode saying “I come clean, I’m James Brower”. Even if the tripcode he initially used is different from what Q posts under today, he could still prove his link to the original 4chan posts. If you created a LARP and you’re very sorry and now you want to come clean and apologize to everyone who fell for it, why wouldn’t you make that apology directly to your audience using the same communication channels you used to reach them in the first place? Rather than DefangoTV?
The LARPers explain the lack of this evidence by saying that they only posted the first 2-3 posts – before Q used tripcodes or the code name Q Clearance Patriot. That sure is convenient! In Defango’s latest version of the narrative, Cicada was posting as Q after that, using the tripcode Matlock.
[QD031] Defango Had Matlock Before Q, Monty M Posted As Q
Supposedly Q got “taken over” when it was moved from 4chan to 8chan. Defango challenges Brower on this, saying he could still post on 4chan. Brower makes the excuse that the computer he used is “gone forever”. When pressed, he says “he spilled coffee all over it”. Defango is not buying that, saying he has the skills to recover a computer from that situation; at the end of the video, Brower says he’ll mail it in. We’ll see what happens; if he mails the computer in and Defango can fix it so that Brower can post as Q once again, that will tell us something. If that doesn’t happen, it also tells us something. Why does Defango even care, if they never posted under Q’s “Matlock” tripcode?
As it is, we have to assess this as no Discord logs (limited video only, with anomalies) and no posting with the tripcode. So what is their proof that they are Q?
Defango has said that Keybase also proves James Brower is Q, but I just don’t see that at all. Maybe it’s because I’m stupid and a garbage human like Defango is always telling me, and not an enlightened fifth dimensional being like him…perhaps someone can explain this link to me in the comments.
Q Is Lying, Only Defango Tells The Truth?
Q has produced far more proof than Defango and his team of LARPers. That’s not to say that Defango has produced no proof, because what he’s given us is “not nothing”. But is it real evidence, or fake evidence?
I see him as having being involved in this pysop, perhaps always on the periphery, perhaps closer to the inner core for the first couple of months like his story says, or perhaps it is exactly as he previously claimed: he’s the genius that invented it all and gave it to the Feds at Defcon and wrote half the questions.
There is no evidence to support the latter; even the evidence Defango has produced himself does not support it, because it shows Dreamcatcher and Microchip coming up with the questions, and the whole idea originating much later than DEFCON 25.
If you were to assume for the sake of argument that the chat logs are real, we still don’t have proof that the players are all who they claim to be. We should consider the possibility that Defango is Dreamcatcher – the avatar looks more like him than Brower, and the writing patterns seem to match his own unique form of literacy. Following on from this, Turdbo could be McConney, or someone else higher up the food chain than these guys. Turdbo only drops in occasionally, and when he does he seems to be the shot-caller.
If Turdbo was Defango, you’d think there’d be something in these chat logs to confirm his earlier story of presenting his idea at DEFCON and writing most of the questions for the initial Q posts. He barely says anything in this so-called “proof”.
Turdbo is either the boss of the operation (which is why Microchip wants to loop him in all the time) or is playing a minor role.
It is clear that Microchip is communicating with others in DM (Direct Message) groups, and has to check with them for permission before doing any active operations. I have been invited into discussion groups on Twitter with some of these people connected to this story, it seems to be a method where they seed information “crumbs” to people who then distribute them out further to their own networks. This is reminiscent of the cellular structure of the Illuminati, first described by John Robison in Proofs of a Conspiracy in 1798 and still devastatingly effective today.
It should be easy for Defango, Dreamcatcher, and Microchip to publish some of these DM messages which would further confirm they were part of the #QAnon operation. What happened to the Telegram and WhatsApp chats that Microchip was going to share?
As I write this, Q has 2673 posts. Many of the predictions have come true, and some of the information has hit the mainstream media months later (#FutureProvesPast). How many Q posts do these LARPers have? Even by their own accounts, only the first 2 or 3, which did not use the name Q.
At one point in the chat they are trying to link their deliberate creation of Q as a LARP to troll Christians with previous LARPS WikiLeaks and PizzaGate, “big conspiracy stuff”. It seems like an awfully convenient narrative for the Deep State, who wants us to think that WikiLeaks, PizzaGate, and QAnon are just “tin foil hat” conspiracy theories.
I find it very strange that these chat logs show the Three LARPeteers (Dreamcatcher, Microchip and Turdbo) saying “I’m a troll, I love trolling, I’m a LARPer, let’s plan a LARP to do on people, we don’t have any facts this is completely made up”. Do people actually speak like that? If Defango is part of a political operations team with people who speak like that, why is he so offended by being called a LARPer? How has he gone from his prior (post-Q) outrage to now “yes me and my friends deliberately plan LARPs” in such a short space of time?
I have worked with many people in the tech industry over my career, including more than 1000 software developers. Some of those have been actual hackers, and some of them have had previous experience as Defense contractors. I am familiar with the culture of these people around the world. However, I am a generation ahead of Defango. I’m not sure the age of Brower and Microchip, perhaps they are Millenials also. I find it hard to understand Millenials and it’s quite possible that they speak in ways that are alien to me. I’ve just never seen or heard anything like it before. It seems contrived, like “write some dialog between 3 people showing that you planned LARPs together to troll people. “.
One of the things that makes 4chan interesting as a staging ground for Memetic Warfare is that posts there are not archived by the Wayback Machine. However they are searchable if you have the post number. It is interesting that every single URL to 4chan posted in these Discord logs does not bring up a post in the search. 4chan threads do get archived at 4plebs, so it is possible to get the links from Microchip’s Discord video even though the URLs don’t work. They link to the first couple of posts attributed to Q, even though the posts don’t say anything about Q.
At no point do the Discord logs show how they figured out things #QAnon posted about before they happened, like the Saudi purge, Rothschild estate helicopter crash, social media disruptions, airport and rail accidents…
In fact, the many (and by now, there really are many) QProofs don’t even get a mention in these videos. Defango addressed it in the comments to his interview with Dreamcatcher:
Zero proofs? Compared to their video of Discord chat with date, time, and scrolling anomalies?
At one point in the chat logs, they are talking about Operation MOCKINGBIRD. However, the information they share about it is a classic limited hangout: the official CIA position, which is they only have 5 pages of records of it. These self-proclaimed major researchers, creating a LARP to redpill the world, really don’t know anything about Mockingbird? And yet they are supposed to be writing the Q posts? Here is what they link to – why not the Wikipedia page, which has much more useful information?
My Take On What Happened
Cicada, who have connections to White Hats in the intelligence community such as American Intelligence Media’s “Conclave”, wanted to come up with a puzzle that would support Trump’s plans to take on the Deep State and drain the swamp. They were feeding information to Justin McConney and other hackers in the Trump social media team via Defango. Defango was sent to DEFCON to deliver a message from Cicada and see if they could engage any of these people in their puzzle. Defango, who had tried to cultivate a direct relationship with McConney and his team, then broke away from Cicada and tried to co-opt the puzzle for himself. They launched their own version before the official one launched with the tripcodes – remember Defango’s story of the Vescia Pisces “some of the people in Cicada are involved in other groups but not everyone in Cicada is in the other group”. I would see the “other group” here as the Intelligence Community. The official driving of the Q puzzle moved to Trump loyalists connected to SOCOM, who initially gave it to some of their junior players. If you look who was covering #QAnon in the early days, it was Unirock, SGT Report, Lift The Veil, Tracy Beanz, Jordan Sather. Not saying that all of those people are military intelligence; but they may have been encouraged to get involved by them. YouTube search algorithms were manipulated by this group to promote the QAnon hashtag and massively increase the subscriber base of those pushing it out. Tracy Beanz helped set up the Reddit board, at which point the Q Controllers became concerned (Reddit is compromised, founder Aaron Swartz died in suspicious circumstances, CEO is a cannibal, big history of conservative censorship there). A team of “Bakers” took it to 4chan/pol, posting with the Calm Before The Storm (CBTS) theme.
These Bakers were probably a military-intelligence cyber team, working out of Fort MacDill in Tampa, Florida. As the operation continued its success and viral growth, the more senior SOCOM teams wanted in. Enter InfoWars. They brought with them the Zionist faction, most likely Unit 8200. This is when the boards moved from 4chan to 8chan (run by ex-Army guy), and the Patriots Soapbox 24/7 channel was created. People suddenly started to see dollar signs and tried to monetize Q.
Q grew too big and they tried to shut it down. Corsi and InfoWars turned on Q. Since then the rest of the InfoWars team has been on a mission to shut it down; possibly, because Q is a threat to their franchise; possibly, because the orders have come down from above. With crimes being committed in the name of Q, even possibly a murder, it is starting to look bad for the Trump base. There are still white hats in the government feeding intel to the Q team. One recent proof that dropped was photos of Lisa Page and Peter Strzok together in London – Q knew about that long before it was revealed that Page also went to London, previously only Strzok’s visit was known about.
I am inclined to believe Defango’s original story, that he brought the idea of having a LARP that educated people to “a room full of Feds and military people with higher-level security clearances than me” at a DEFCON 25 Skytalk about whistleblowers in July 2017. I believe Microchip (who is apparently very close to the Israelis) was the boss of this cell, with a direct line of communication to Justin McConney. Maybe he is McConney like Defango says (Microchip denied it in his interview with Defango). This operation was initially supported by the US-based psyops team, then expanded to include Israeli psyops personnel. It subsequently descended into infighting, bickering, and cult-like behavior, at which point the higher-ups decided it had to be shut down because it was no longer bringing the desired benefits (unite the base, maintain morale, deflect from General Flynn/Manafort prosecution, provide back-channel communications bypassing Mockingbird media). What we are seeing now is a limited hangout, where Defango gets to claim more credit than he is due in order to ensure the operation is distanced from Trump.
I will give Defango, Dreamcatcher, and Microchip the benefit of the doubt. If they can produce some of this evidence to support their case, then maybe I will take them at their word: it really is #All4aLARP.
Post on 4chan from any of the trip codes (except Matlock)
Any one of them log into the Discord on a live stream and bring up what Microchip showed in his video
Explain the Q Proofs
Explain Justin McConney’s role
Produce a witness who heard the presentation at Defcon
Show other messages, Tweets, DMs, email, WhatsApp, Telegram chats that support their stories
Until they do, I remain convinced that Q is real. A real psyop.