Lestat has dropped some of his Discord chat logs with Defango, a bombshell move which is sending ripples across the Net.
Perhaps predictably, Defango has claimed credit that he was the one who did this.
Maybe he’s right, but it’s beside the point. Who released the chat logs first does not change the contents of them, that’s the point of this story. Please provide a link to the more comprehensive Discord logs, we will check them out.
Defango has just been named a finalist for 2019 LARPer of the Year. The awards show will be streaming live on Saturday night from around 9pm EST on the Titus Frost channel. He is up against Mike Cernovich, Jerome Corsi and Steven Crowder for the title. A lot of time and audience participation went into determining the Final Four, congratulations to all who got nominated. There sure were some big contenders this year.
Earlier this year, Lestat took over the Abel Danger channel.
Now we are seeing some of the behind the scenes machinations around that move.
We see YouTubers colluding with others to troll, money changing hands and specific instructions being given on who to attack and even more significantly, who not to attack – in this case, Defango’s cashed up compatriots MAGA Coalition and An Open Secret.
A YouTuber named FknFreddy is also revealed as a collaborator with this gang. This is ironic because he and his crew frequently rail against “Multi-Channel Networks” on YouTube, yet here they are revealed to be colluding with multiple other channels to co-ordinate attacks on group targets.
We see plans being made to attack rival YouTubers on their birthday – something that happened to me this year from the Sawyers.
Lestat immediately weaponized the Abel Danger channel to attack Thomas Schoenberger, whom he and Defango had both previously worked with in at ShadowBox.
Lestat created logos for Shadow Box and titles for Defango Thomas:
Lestat disagrees with the above characterization of these events. He is not part of any team and no-one is attacking Thomas Schoenberger. He didn’t take over the Abel Danger channel, he was given it; he didn’t weaponize this channel to attack TS, he hardly spoke about him, there were just a few videos there made by Bobby Sauerwald when he received the 66,000 subscriber channel as a gift; he designed logos for free and was never part of the ShadowBox organization. #YMMV.
Abel Danger was founded by David Squawkins and Field McConnell. They split and Squawkins ended up in partnership with Jason Goodman, Field ended up in jail, and Lestat ended up taking over the 66,000 subscriber YouTube channel Abel Danger – already down to 58,000 subs.
Field McConnell from Abel Danger has teamed up with Timothy Charles Holmseth, who has been publicly praised by Robert David Steele. See Tracking the Leopard Meroz’s great article on these characters:
Agent19 just did an excellent (and very disturbing) video on these men and their “Children’s Crusade”:
Holmseth, Steele, Defango, David Seaman and Devin Nunes have all been represented by attorney Steven Biss. Jason Goodman recently accused Biss and his wife Tanya Cornwell of all kinds of heinous activity in his lawsuit with Robert David Steele in the Eastern District of Virginia.
Here is a copy/paste of their Discord chat logs. Emphasis ours. At the end of the chat we will offer analysis and share some other information that has come to light as a result of this drop.
bro awesoma manthanks a lotfeel so proudn.nthis is what’s al aboutbro and thnks for the $$ will help a lots
Dont give away my address fuckerlol
I need a new bummer’bumper
whats a bumper?bumper sticker?
Like a think unirock has in between segments
what text do you want there?
owww like the pixel style one i made for him
June 15, 2019
you told me to dm you
You wanna make some troll vids
On lan balina
what´s on lan balina????
He has a stolen rolex
June 19, 2019
So you back to your old ways after taking 2k from me and not putting up any work
June 21, 2019
so your just going to be not talking about meor to me again
Not sure why your like turning on me that’s cool tho We still expect the video files since we paid you if they don’t come threw it’s just going to be a bummer OGNAFED still thanks for doing work and whatnot, the stuff you made was good and could have been useful.
)Thomas Injected the idea of me getting payed by defango, and Defango pushed the same narrative? Also instead of debunking what ever I’m showing just to confrim it, You never payed me Anthony did. you just help turn etherium to $
June 23, 2019
Im talking to Ant
The Directives where clear. You needed to not talk about the puzzle, Ant or me. We told you we would pay for exporting the videos. We still haven’t gotten them
You have been MIA for 2 weeks and now your posting stuff. On top of that your making up things again
So register your coinbase and get paid by ant
I have no simpatico for you
Right now your basically thr biggest pos in the world
Why im not talking about Thomas ya fucking idiot
June 24, 2019
I only want you to finish the videos and that’s it
Stop making shit up and attacking me.
June 27, 2019
so are you doing Those 2 viedos?
Please Please Please
July 18, 2019
send via email what you need and ill do it ive already said this to you zyu and anthony
ive got no email and im already gonna start to work on other stuff
[END CHAT LOG DUMP]
Pièce de Résistance
“Anthony” is believed to be Anthony Khamsei, CEO of Resistance. He’s a cyber-security expert running a company specializing in “complex online threats” – a Swedish version of ShadowBox? Mr Khamsei is one of those guys who’ll happily tell you how humble he is on his personal bio then brag about his MENSA membership:
You will see from the Discord log that Defango was asking Lestat to target troll attacks on Ian Balina, an ICO influencer. This was a business relationship of Anthony’s that went sour:
Note the irony of the last statement – to prevent toxic, shameless characters from giving blockchain a bad name, his plan is to hire said characters and employ them in said actions.
No-one in his team would ever manipulate social media in such a way. They’re not here to create ‘fake news’. Just troll videos:
And The Rest…
Others have come forward to respond to the Lestat-Defango Discordian drop with further evidence of their own (some of it comes from earlier times and may have been posted before):
This screenshot was before Lestat took over the Abel Danger YouTube channel. The “huge responsibility” Lestat is referring to is the group’s mission to attack Thomas Schoenberger.
We hope that others will be inspired to come forward with their own screenshots, chat logs, and other evidence of what has really been going on with these LARPwars.
Sounds like there may be even more to come, tune in to SDNY.org for updates
In Part 3 we talked about “Shadow Box”, a “reputation defense” firm created by Well Traveled Fox, Thomas Schoenberger, Defango and Trevor Fitzgibbon. In this post we delve more into the claims made by Fox.
Was Fox Doxxed?
How dare I say I believer her! So outrageous.
In their recent interview, Lestat asked Fox specifically about my claim to have interviewed her extensively, which she dismissed as untrue. She said “he doxxed me and then we exchanged a few DMs, he wanted to know about the Seth Rich files”.
This information is false, and I am forced to respond. Below is my complete interaction with Fox. You be the judge of if this was “just a few DMs” or if my characterization that “I interviewed her extensively” was correct. She is not the innocent and unwitting victim that she tries to portray on social media, far from it. This person connects many of the LARPs together. Is that by accident, coincidence…or design?
Watch what happens with this post – I predict I will be demonized for “attacking” Fox, when all I am doing is sharing her own words that prove that she has been deliberately misleading people about our interactions.
First of all, I never doxxed her. I did not publish any private information that she had not already put in the public domain herself.
When I wrote about Q I didn’t know who this woman was, to me she was just part of the Cicada 3301 crew who were creating ARG puzzles with Thomas Schoenberger and certified IARPA contributor Manuel Chavez III aka Defango aka LARPWars aka MC Dummy Dumb aka Il1usiveMan. Thomas was only somebody I knew because he was doxxed by Defango, who used to work for him.
Fox’s name was brought up by Thomas in his explanation of connections between QAnon and Cicada 3301. I quoted in my story what Thomas told me were some of the Cicada 3301 elements that played into the origins of Q. He listed a bunch of people who were part of his team doing Cicada puzzles. If he was naming people who must not be named, then that’s on him.
You shouldn’t expect the messenger to divine all the subtle nuances and implications of each message. In this case Fox’s claim that nobody knew her identity before I interviewed Thomas is completely false. Here’s the evidence.
When Fox contacted me to object to her first name being in my January 2019 story, I immediately redacted it. I never published her address, phone number, or any other personal information. Her full name and connection to Cicada 3301 has been public since May 2018, as a quick Google search for “Cicada 3301 trademark” reveals.
If it’s fine for her to put her name with Cicada 3301 for official public documents that come up on page 1 of a search, why would I think that she only wants to be known by an alias? Why not use a pseudonym or LLC to file the trademark if secrecy was so important? Still, out of courtesy, I didn’t link to the trademark in that story in order to protect her privacy.
Defango had doxxed Fox in the previous year (2018) with her full name and threatened to ruin the life of her, her husband and her family, all over the Cicada trademark:
Why is Fox more upset with me quoting TS using her first name than with Defango making violent threats to her and her family? That’s a legitimate question to ask, right? Well I’ve asked it, so have others…her response was deleting her Twitter account for the umpteenth time.
For reference, here is the original Q post I wrote in January 2019 featuring these characters:
There is a whole crew of people clustered around Defango who hate Thomas Schoenberger. Some of them now hate Defango too. If you’re on Twitter or YouTube it’s easy to find them. Just like or comment on one of Thomas’s posts and then they will start targeting you too!
I knew when I interviewed Thomas that it would be controversial, and I fully expected attacks as a result of including his version of the narrative. However I never in a million years could have imagined the response that happened. Constant, round the clock attacks every day. Lawsuits. All kinds of character assassination attacks, smears without evidence to the reputation I’ve built over a lifetime. Attacks on my family. Accusations of murder, money laundering, pedophilia. I maybe expected that sort of thing going up against the Burning Man Organization, and indeed experienced a great deal of such lesser black magick warfare. It was nothing compared to what has happened to me merely for sharing Thomas’ side of the story.
I’ve never even met Thomas Schoenberger, yet these people who lived with him, worked with him, financed him, even loved him accuse me of being his “associate, lackey, minion, agent, handler, employer, enabler, colleague”.
The more these people attack me (and many others) for what they define as an “association” with Thomas , the more their true character is on display for the world to see – and showing them to be just as TS described. Even though many of them seem to be vile, spiteful people – literal trolls, many of them ex-cons – there is surely nobody on earth who is consumed with that much malice and misery. There is more going on here. As emotional as many of the attackers are, emotion itself is not their overarching motive. Do you really care about who people you’ve never met are friends with on social media? Whose posts they like? Me neither! So what’s up with these cats?
It is interesting that Defango pushed the same narrative as Fox in response to my first ever Q post: that I doxxed him. He filed a dozen false copyright strikes for clips I edited to show what he said in his own words (so there could be no argument that I was misquoting him). He put his home address on the complaint form to Vimeo, and they sent me an email with that information just as I was publishing the post. I didn’t read the letter far enough to see his details in it, I just copy-pasted it. When he objected, I immediately redacted the address – just as I did with Fox’s name in this post. Technically Vimeo doxxed him, but he freely volunteered the information to them himself and agreed to their terms that it would be shared.
In Fox’s case, I never published her full name, likeness, phone number, address, LinkedIn profile, Facebook account, photographs, family details, or any other personally identifiable information. Just the name “B[REDACTED]” as a quote from Thomas.
In almost 2000 posts on this blog, many of them on controversial topics, many people being upset to have their actions discussed in a critical manner, I’ve never run into this problem before. Just these two people from this one post – which happens to be the first one I’ve ever done on Q. #All4aLARP ?
Here’s the original comment with Fox’s name from her former lover Thomas Schoenberger, sharing his story about the origins of Q.
In the original post instead of [NAME REDACTED] it said “Beth”. That’s doxxing, really?
The argument that merely stating Fox’s first name is doxxing is thrown out by the behavior of Lestat’s mods, who were happy to use her name in the chat of his interview with no reprimand. You can clearly see the double standard: if I say the name they accuse me of doxxing, but when Lestat’s mods Esteban (CIA/DEA), Monkey Savant (known troll), Vinny (Temple of Set) and Diane say it? Everything’s kosher.
The following is presented to prove:
I’m not making up a claim that Fox put $50,000+ into ShadowBox, that’s what she told me and I verified it – more than once.
I interviewed her extensively as I said, not “never” like Lestat claims or “a couple of DMs” like Fox claims.
I’ve represented what she told me accurately and never misrepresented any of it.
I respected her request to be left alone after someone – maybe Thomas, more likely an enemy of Thomas – attacked her husband’s LinkedIn page by snitching on their love affair.
People need to learn that they can’t lie about me forever without any repercussions. Just because I let them run their mouth off for a while, doesn’t mean I will never respond. I always post evidence, which puts me in a stronger position should any lawsuits arise. Of course, everyone else is invited to post their own evidence – in the comments here, or post it somewhere else and share the link here. I’m happy to be proven wrong, so far in nearly 8 years of writing this blog that hasn’t really happened, despite what you might hear from trolls like Jason Goodman, Jan Irvin, or their psyop sidekick Douglas Dietrich. Is Fox another one of those low-lifes?
As you can see, Fox contacted me specifically in relation to the research I am publishing at this blog. Extensive? Just a couple of DMs? We report, you decide…
She is tired of people making her a character for their narrative. And yet she goes on Lestat’s show to portray me falsely as a fictional villain in his narrative.
I have shared all Fox’s information without editing. I hope you will agree that “interviewed her extensively” was an appropriate characterization.
Fox With Socks Doxxes Socks
As it turns out, Fox was the one working with doxxers:
Bobby “The Lone Cicada” and “Farkness Thee Failmon” above are the same people. This guy brags about his penis size and his fetlife profile, which is perhaps acceptable behavior within the LGBTQI+/BDSM community but not acceptable when speaking to someone who they know is a minor. He is saying that the doxxing information about Mind Inspired and Snow White that he published came from (and was paid for) by Fox.
Thomas’s story has been confirmed to me by both the victims who were doxxed. One is a single mother of young children with an abusive ex. There may have been an emotional motivation behind it:
Both Thomas and Mindy deny any kind of intimate relationship, so this seems like jealousy – which is further confirmation of TS’s claims that he and Fox had an extra-marital affair. Why else would she consider TS’s relationships with others “cheating”? Fox wonders why I consider her a bad person, I’m not sure what her wedding vows were so I’m in no position to judge. Perhaps this was the typical behavior of a good person. I used to live in San Francisco, where more than once a wife introduced me to her husband’s boyfriend or girlfriend. People have open relationships, it’s very European. To each their own. Every Fox has its henhouse.
Thomas has also shared evidence of another minor being targeted by people in this group. A disturbing pattern given that Defango was one of the main people scoffing that #PizzaGate as a LARP and has now teamed up with others who also push that narrative.
Here Defango appears to be stalking a female police officer:
Long after everyone in ShadowBox went their separate ways – on the surface, at least – Fox was still in touch with TS, and seemingly confused:
This series is investigating the information, relationships and transactions behind the scenes of the alt-media “truth” community that are coming to light as a result of various lawsuits and catfights. Some of the biggest political stories of our times connect into these LARPers, who are increasingly attracting mainstream media attention.
Memes played a crucial role in the 2016 US Presidential election and it looks like LARPs will in 2020.
PizzaGate Body Count
In the weeks leading up to the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election, WikiLeaks published the emails of Hillary Clinton’s Chief of Staff John Podesta (who, incidentally, helped John Perry Barlow found the EFF). The coded language, sacrifices to Molech and corrupt behavior revealed in these emails led to a crowdsourced investigation on an unprecedented scale. This was dubbed #PizzaGate because it centered around a man named James Alefantis who in 2012 was named the #49 most powerful person in Washington D.C. as the owner of a pizza restaurant called Comet Ping-Pong. Since then, all the bombshell revelations that have come out in relation to NXIVM, Jeffrey Epstein and the MEGA group have proved that the involvement of billionaires and governments in child sex trafficking and compromise operations is conspiracy fact, not theory.
There are a lot of dead bodies around this story, the Venn diagram intersection of PizzaGate and WikiLeaks that has been the front lines of the Internet truth community for the past few years.
Even the hacker collective Anonymous itself was pronounced “dying a slow death” earlier this year by ZDNet with “hacktivist” attacks down 95% since 2015.
These names may not seem connected but a little bit of digging unveils a small cluster of people in and around this story who connect to many of them. Is it all just a bunch of random coincidences? For no reason at all, there just happened to be many sudden deaths in a short space of time of people who interacted with characters in this School Play.
How many coincidences until it becomes mathematically impossible?
ShadowBox was a private intelligence firm offering cyber militias for reputation defense. Their star technologist was Defango. Their mastermind strategist and deal-maker was Thomas Schoenberger. Their PR guru was Trevor Fitzgibbon. The initial money came from WellTraveledFox. Lestat was involved with this group making videos and designed their logo.
Here’s how they described it in their own promotional materials.
“You’ve been attacked. Your reputation, your family, your clients and livelihood, you feel like the earth is moving under your feet. You are in jeopardy. You didn’t pick this fight. But you can’t afford to lose it.
THIS IS WAR
Shadowbox is your army. We solve your problems and expose truth. We unleash a multifaceted, strategic battle plan through integrated research earned media, legal and digital chaos.
Where your enemies have lied to paint you as the bad guy, we sow the seeds of doubt and present the counter-narrative that they are, in fact, the villains, and you have been unjustly accused. We do this through sophisticated use of internet technology, meme creation, PR, and cyber-guerrilla tactics that stop the bleeding and begin to sway public opinion and the media in your favor.
WHAT WE DO
Shadowbox designs crisis management/ counterinsurgencies to debunk and hit back at malicious and defamatory online and media attacks on our clients…..Our operations unit effectively routs adversaries away from you, sending them to chase phantoms and rendering them exhausted and perplexed.…”
“Shadowbox is an elite team of online specialties that can respond to a variety of client situations and needs based on real-time events. We use a combination of tactics and strategies to effectively promote your content, operation or services to create viral marketing campaigns that effectively target organic growth systems. We take targeted marketing to a new level of access by identifying positive and negative promoters to prudently manage social online presence and engagement in real time which translates to sales, or higher visibility. We can also help mitigate militia-like tactics used in targeted harassment campaigns to effectively thwart and vanquish internet threats, character assassination attempts, deleterious media, embarrassingly or potentially damaging links on google. We act as your silent partner and protection in the vast online world and offer you cutting edge tactics ….”
“Our backgrounds range from covert reputation strategists to technical specialists and PR experts with global influence caliber contacts. We specialize in uncovering unique intelligence and social business interaction methodologies and apply them to ensure rapid deployment virality across the media spectrum. Our researchers uncover what others cannot use cutting-edge intelligence mapping systems, private detective networks, ex-intelligence agents and officers….”.
In this interview with Lift the Veil, Fox says that they started ShadowBox as a good thing, a way to help people deal with online bullies.
“Defango and Trevor decided to go behind our back and start their own company, Silent Partner, without telling us. And when that happened it killed the company…Trevor got $11,000.”
Her story here that the purpose was “to stop bullying” does not quite fit the description above – for example, “chasing phantoms and rendering them exhausted and perplexed”. Isn’t that doing the bullying? It sounds more like information operations, active measures.
The first target? The Seth Rich case. But rather than defending the Rich family from cyber-bullies, the ShadowBox team was pitching to the guy the family are currently suing in multiple jurisdictions at once.
Remember “Who Spoofed the Seth Rich Files”? We now have evidence indicating it was a deliberate LARP involving people connected to the intelligence community and WikiLeaks. The so-called “Seth Rich files” were downloaded from Guccifer 2.0’s blog and re-injected into the YouTube truther community via Crowdsource the Truth in conjunction with Defango.
There is not enough evidence to support a claim that ShadowBox was the only organized group behind the Seth Rich files LARP. There seem to have been multiple groups intersecting together for specific missions in the LARPwars.
Mr Ed’s Militia
Ed Butowksy was one client who signed on, with the price tag allegedly $40,000 for the first month of his own private digital army. A mercenary militia of experienced trolls, LARPers, shitposters, memers, hackers, YouTubers, Tweeters, social influencers, and narrative spinners. What would one do with such a motley cyber crew? Why, the usual. “Reputation Defense”. What does that really mean? The description of the offering sounds a lot like the kind of psychological warfare we see raging on social media on a daily basis.
What product are they selling? As best I can tell, the weapons in the arsenal of Reputation Defense were: Disinformation. Doxxing. Gang stalking. Promoting hashtags and memes. Viral videos mocking people.
Defango still appears to be in the Shadow Box business today, and claims to be working with Shadow Brokers. He was in Florida in June this year meeting with one of them when the last Shadow Brokers ransomware attack shut down a hospital in the State. This only ended when the hospital paid $600,000 in Bitcoin to the hackers. Shortly thereafter Defango offered a one Bitcoin reward for the capture or location of Thomas Schoenberger. How did he suddenly get bitcoins to give away?
Who Goofed the Spoof?
There is evidence that Guccifer 2.0 and the whole “Russian collusion” hoax was cooked up by the same team as the “Pee Pee Dossier”: Fusion GPS, Crowdstrike, John Podesta, Robby Mook. Check out the work of Adam Carter (@with_integrity) and The Forensicator, who between them have shown that the Mueller report got it wrong in significant ways with respect to the DNC Leaks.
Guccifer 2.0 released a bunch of files from the Democratic party, including information from the NGPVAN database. Defango was a volunteer for OFA at Arizona State University. OFA is Obama’s volunteer army, 180,000 strong. “Grade A Bullshit that nearly killed the Democrats”, according to some Democratic state leaders. That sounds right up Manuel’s alley. Defango now works with “MAGA Coalition” and is associated with people who back Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and John McCain. He is a DNC political operative who will work for the highest bidder. He worked in OFA with NGPVAN and the sort of information contained in the Guccifer files.
The “Seth Rich files” that were “spoofed” according to Crowdsource the Truth were actually the Guccifer 2 files. They were handed to Patricia Negron aka “Trish the Dish” on a USB stick. One source told me this handover went down theatrically in a forest near Boston. It’s quite possible that Trish, Jason and George really thought they were getting some super secret hacker intel from Seth Rich, rather than being led into a LARP. It’s also possible that all the characters involved with this were well aware of what they were doing, why, and for whom. I find it hard to believe that every single character in this story was an innocent, unwitting patsy, and everything just happened to them by coincidence. #YMMV.
Florida’s Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was deeply connected to the Imran Awan scandal, which George and Jason also “covered” – they provided a cover of disinformation and LARPing to confuse anyone looking into the true details of the case. Imran Awan’s lawyer Chris Gowen thanked Jason Goodman on his channel for his assistance in helping Awan get a light sentence – “inadvertent disclosure” was the reason he gave.
There seemed to be some weird discrepancies in these “Seth Rich files”, which led to Jason Goodman’s now infamous claim that they were “spoofed”. This happened at the same time as Wikileaks were promoting their Vault 7 drop. These were allegedly CIA hacking tools that were now being released into the wild, including a virus called Pandemic that could travel through PDFs and Office documents – the exact type of content contained in the so-called “Seth Rich Files”.
Fox’s friend the White Rabbit (also somewhat involved in the origins of #QAnon, according to TS) gave the “Seth Rich files” to Trish. She, George and Jason made a big deal about receiving this USB stick, then Defango reached out to them to “help” unzip the files. Why they couldn’t unpack the files themselves is unclear. George Webb used to work for both SUN Microsystems (with Google Chairman and Pentagon adviser Eric Schmidt) and John McAfee (with Crowdstrike founder Dmitri Alperovitch). Surely he can figure out how to open zipped files?
In my opinion, this entire LARP looks like an attempt to paint Seth Rich as the DNC Leaker (supporting Ed Butowsky’s defamation defense) and Guccifer 2 as connected to WikiLeaks (supporting the Progressive’s #RussiaGate narrative). This objective seems to suit the DNC and supports the #QAnon theory that Wikileaks has been compromised.
A couple of months after the “Who Spoofed the Seth Rich Files” LARP, the main characters of ShadowBox are in a meeting in Plano, Texas with Ed Butowsky where people are getting paid money to strategize Seth Rich storytelling. The basis of multiple lawsuits from the Rich family is that Ed Butowsky and Matt Couch were spreading rumors and disinformation.
I have found no evidence that either Thomas or Fox went on to talk about Seth Rich after that meeting. There is evidence that both Defango and Matt Couch did.
Crowdsource the LARPs
Fox appears to have passed the Rich/Butowsky gig over to George Webb and Jason Goodman via her former friend Patricia Negron aka “Trish the Dish”. The Crowdsource the Truth team did many shows on the Seth Rich case, including interviewing Rod Wheeler who went to the White House with Ed Butowsky to brief press secretary Sean Spicer on their investigation. The purpose of such a large number of Crowdsource the “Truth” episodes about Seth Rich seems to have been to attach as much disinformation as possible to the story, such as “Alpha Jollah was the wheelman”. Jason Goodman attended a Seth Rich-related Jack Burkman press conference with Matt Couch, where Goodman may have fatally endangered George Webb’s sidekick Jenny Moore by showing her face (she claimed to be in witness protection after a violent gang assault; she was dead just weeks after Jason put her image on his channel).
We showed the links between Defango, Mindy Robinson and Jacob Wohl in Part 1. Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman are currently holding farcical press conferences where they get people to stand up and say they had affairs with politicians. A recent one where they had a man saying he was a male escort hired out at great expense by Elizabeth Warren fell apart when the man said he thought he was doing something on a reality TV show.
Wait…Will Sommer? The guy who’s interviewing Defango? He sure seems to introduce a lot of LARPers to the mainstream media world over at the Daily Beast, where Chelsea Clinton sits on the board.
This team somehow managed to pull off a LARP that was spun to make Elizabeth Warren look good (“cool”, a “cougar”) while at the same time blamed on Trump supporters who were presented as amateurish buffoons. Are these people really Trump supporters? Or were Progressives behind this the whole time?
Agents of chaos…LARPers. Larpo ab chao.
The Dallas Dealeyo
Thomas Schoenberger has alleged in a legal deposition that Ed Butowsky tried to recruit the ShadowBox team and others to spy on the Rich family in Omaha; he refused and quit, his allegation is that Defango and Matt Couch took the offer up. Shadowbox broke up shortly after this meeting because Defango wanted to include Trevor Fitzgibbon and the company they had started together called “Silent Partner IO”.
In June Thomas made the claim that one of the agenda items at that meeting was surveillance of the Rich family.
Defango responded by saying that Thomas tried to extort Ed for $300,000. No evidence of this claim has been produced, and Defango claims to have shared all of his evidence on his Aaron Rich Subpoena stream.
However, on a recent livestream Defango did acknowledge that he was asked to do illegal surveillance and wiretapping at the meeting with Butowsky. Manuel says it was Thomas that asked him, which is confirmation that it was discussed. Thomas says it wasn’t and there were many people in the room at the time who will back him up. We may be able to actually get to the bottom of this as it seems like a key issue in multiple lawsuits.
Matt Couch’s tweets and periscopes immediately following the Sep 19 2017 confirm the meeting took place, and suggest a positive engagement:
The day after the meeting with Ed Butowsky, Matt did a periscope saying that Aaron Rich took money from WikiLeaks. Aaron Rich is suing him for saying this.
This claim came from “intel sources”, which appear to be Frank Bacon (discussed previously in more detail in Part 2).
I have been in direct communication with two of the people who were in the meeting, TS and WellTraveledFox. They both confirm that they founded ShadowBox with Defango and Trevor Fitzgibbon, and that it fell apart when Defango and Trevor tried to sabotage it from within with their own “Silent Partner” idea.
As best as I have been able to reconstruct, these are the people that were present at the Dallas meeting (if any of these people would like to step forward with their own version of events, either on or off the record, I would welcome it):
Manual Chavez III (Defango)
Fox has basically confirmed Thomas’s details of who was at the meeting, but for legal reasons does not want to answer many questions about it. Fair enough – I didn’t push her on that. Since Defango and Thomas were both subpoenaed, it seems a reasonable assumption that she has been asked to give a deposition as well.
Thomas said that Joe Birkell was connected to Blackwater. TS didn’t directly answer my question about Dave Stossel being related to Fox News host John Stossel, but did let me know about John’s current medical condition. We wish him a speedy recovery.
Blackwater is interesting here because of its founder’s connection to #PizzaGate. Erik Prince gave an interview to Breitbart immediately before the 2016 election and became one of the main initial promoters of the story linking Hillary Clinton to crime against children – later confirmed by information on page 294 of the 2018 Inspector-General’s Report. Prince’s sister Betsy DeVos was made Secretary of Education by President Trump. Erik Prince has been linked to Mueller witness George Nader, who was found to be a repeat offender traveling internationally with child porn.
Matt Couch (and if I’m not mistaken his colleague Josh Flippo) is connected to MMA (Mixed Martial Arts), as is Joe Rogan (very closely connected to both Jan Irvin and Alex Jones). Defango’s new padrón is also very into MMA, and was challenged to a cage fight in the Octagon by Isaac Kappy. Mindy Robinson from their crew is dating MMA fighter Randy Couture.
Fox shared a strange interaction with Thomas on the day of the meeting with Ed which made her uncomfortable.
This is sophomorish behavior, borderline sexual harassment since they are in a company together, but according to both Fox and Thomas she was the one financing ShadowBox which was only incorporated after this meeting. I asked Thomas to explain it:
Further evidence has surfaced confirming some sort of romantic connection, though according to both parties it was unrequited:
Thomas does acknowledge here that he messaged Fox’s husband and that was wrong; however, he denies being responsible for messages posted on the guy’s LinkedIn page which have been shown elsewhere. I am not going to post that here, but it is another coincidence for us to count that her husband works for a company that Jason Goodman’s sidekick David Hawkins spent most of his career working for.
Fox says she was upset about the incident with Thomas and Trevor and quit ShadowBox as a result…but then “got drawn back in”. Judging by the Valentine’s Day card, things were back on track by February 2018. She funded the team with dinners and hotel rooms in Sugarland Texas. In addition, Ed Butowsky put Defango and Thomas up in a hotel suite at the Marriott for 60 days. That’s quite a lot of time to dedicate to one person’s reputation! According to Thomas, Fox also arranged his trip to Mexico to stay with Lestat, who designed the ShadowBox logo. Defango was supposed to deliver a couple of websites for clients who had paid, but was unable to – perhaps the festival season arrived?
Note that Fox is saying here that Trevor Fitzgibbon brought two friends with him who were spooks – meaning, connected to the Intelligence Community. Defango is continually denies he has connections like this, while at the same time bragging about knowing the Director of the Keyhole system, former CIA and Marine Intelligence officer Robert David Steele, the Attorney-General of Texas, an Arizona Chief of Police, Shadow Brokers and a 33rd Degree Freemason in Florida. Recently Manuel Chavez showed his achievement certificate thanking him for his service to IARPA, the Intelligence Community’s version of DARPA. So to me, I believe Fox’s characterization of these guys as spooks. Thomas said one of the people present was an Army Ranger.
Shadowbox split up and they all stopped working together, then Fox registered the trademark for Cicada 3301. This appears to have been at the prompting of Defango and Lestat, who wanted to keep it out of Thomas Schoenberger’s hands.
It may have also been a present that she decided to keep for herself:
The trademark specifically says that Cicada 3301 is an ARG: “Alternate Reality Games via the Internet”. Cicada 3301 is quite literally a LARP.
The Cicada 3301 trademark is now in the hands of Primus LLC and Michael Levine, Thomas Schoenberger’s long-time composing partner who wrote the KitKat jingle and music for a Star Wars cartoon show with Seth Green. While there has been discussion of a rumored “Sony deal” for a feature film, my understanding is that a Cicada 3301 TV show is in the works.
This is an important factor to bear in mind when looking at this story: a battle over something that could potentially be worth millions of dollars. Money makes people lie, cheat, steal, threaten, blackmail, and worse. It appears to be a strong motivating factor behind the actions of some of the characters.
The dirty side of politics, spin and propaganda and psyops, is another potential factor at play. Was everyone involved in this story being upfront and honest with each other? Or were some being manipulative?
Fox is very interested in WikiLeaks. This week Julian Assange appeared in court in the UK, barely able to speak and having difficulty understanding what was going on. Perhaps triggered by this, or perhaps in a totally random coincidence, Fox went on Lestat’s channel to talk about Thomas.
WikiLeaks is actually a common thread connecting many of these characters.
Defango tried to get involved with WikiLeaks via the Unity4J movement. They kicked him out. Lestat, who seems to vacillate between working for these people and betraying them, claimed this was because Defango created an online store and tried to embezzle donation money meant to free Julian Assange. #YMMV. Do your own research, as always, this is someone who knows the guy personally, collaborated with him for years and even took hush money from him. I’m not saying you have to believe him, he lies about me frequently. At the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve him on this, it certainly sounds plausible.
Defango’s partner Trevor Fitzgibbon also got himself entangled in WikiLeaks. For a while he did PR for Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and Michael Ratner. He is connected to the Center for American Progress, founded by John Podesta. Conflict of interest, much? He has had a long working relationship with David Brock, founder of Media Matters and ex-boyfriend of James Alefantis. These people are literally the *ground zero* of #PizzaGate.
Defango was tied up with his former attorney Steven Biss, who is representing Robert David Steele (multi-time Defango show guest) in his lawsuit against Jason Goodman (also very mixed up with Defango). Thomas Schoenberger introduced Steven Biss to #RussiaGate’s Carter Page. He denies Lestat’s claim that he introduced Biss to General Michael Flynn. Biss was the lawyer for former House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes in multiple social media defamation suits including $300 million lawsuit against a Twitter troll account “Devin Nunes Cow”.
Steven Biss’s wife Tanya is good friends with Nora Maccoby. She has been found giving large superchats to YouTube truthers to promote messages favorable to the Maccobys (she denies their connection to Laura Silsby and Friends of the Orphans in Haiti). I had a falling out with Jan Irvin immediately after he started interacting with Nora in the wake of the #PizzaGate revelations from WikiLeaks. Her brother Max Maccoby was James Alefantis’ lawyer. Their father Michael Maccoby is connected to the Frankfurt School and MKULTRA doctors like Henry Murray (OSS) and Timothy Leary (CIA). He is the top psychiatrist in Langley. Nora made a video about growing up in a CIA family in a CIA neighborhood – which happens to be the neighborhood where Comet Ping Pong is located.
Jason’s ex-partner George Webb claimed to be a WikiLeaks source, involved in dropping thumb drives to Michael Ratner and John Jones (both now dead, just like George’s former partner/sidekick Jenny Moore).
WikiLeaks lawyer Michael Ratner’s sister Ellen turns out to be Ed Butowsky’s source for information connecting Seth Rich and WikiLeaks, which is now the subject of multiple lawsuits from the Rich family.
I don’t dispute that Ed Butowksy has told the truth…how would I know? It seems strange that truth-tellers need a cyber militia supporting their narratives with #FakeNews and LARPing.
Butowsky and George Webb are both connected to respected journalist Seymour Hersh, who claimed to have inside FBI sources about the “Seth Rich files” that may well have actually been George Webb & co (although according to Ed Butowsky Hersh claimed his FBI source was George’s nemesis, disgraced FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe – which makes the relationship between Webb and Hersh highly suspicious) . Hersh’s phone call with Butowksy was leaked to the media by Cassandra Fairbanks and promoted by WikiLeaks.
Butowsky claims he reached out to help the Rich’s because they have the same Rabbi. See Part 2 for more details.
Jason Goodman’s mentor and frequent co-conspirator guest Jerome Corsi was singled out by the Mueller investigation for his own ties to WikiLeaks. He is prosecuting Robert Mueller in a “Citizens Grand Jury” on Crowdsource the Truth with other frequent guest Larry Klayman as his attorney.
Stone was talking about WikiLeaks with radio host Randy Credico.
As soon as George Webb and Jason Goodman got together (introduced by Lee Stranahan), they did an interview with Trevor Fitzgibbon, who was also PR guy for the late Michael Ratner.
Were infiltrators trying to insert themselves into Wikileaks? Or was Wikileaks always made up of political operatives with ties to the Intelligence Community?
Did Defango Do #GayOps on Kim Dotcom?
Kim Dotcom has claimed he was targeted by the Obama administration for being a major donor to Wikileaks. He has a 9/11 connection that not many people know about:
Kim Dotcom claims to have known Seth Rich was the DNC leaker. He predicted on Bloomberg TV in 2015 that Julian Assange would be Hillary Clinton’s biggest problem in the 2016 election.
It seems that somebody tried to frame Kim Dotcom for an amateurish attempt to hack the emails of the Rich family. More #GayOps from these wannabe black hats?
Kim was allegedly in the YouTube chat of Crowdsource the Truth one night with George and Jason, at the time the Seth Rich Files LARP was launched. This inspired many of the videos and remixes that helped introduce Jason Goodman to the truther community.
How Do We Launch An Old Dude as a YouTube Truther?
Since that time, Crowdsource the Truth has become the go-to place for old people with Deep State backgrounds to reinvent themselves in this new world of superchats and patreon subscriptions.
Weaving The LARP Webbs
Fox was friends with Trish the Dish, an early member of Crowdsource the Truth. Then she claims that Trish and Jason Goodman “targeted” her and the White Rabbit.
Before that happened, Fox claimed that Trish fell in love with “Vetter” – an Internet account she didn’t know in real life. Fox is now claiming that Thomas Schoenberger is Vetter (aka ChristWins). I have no idea or insight I can give you, but perhaps others can in the comments.
Trish and Fox were both participants in the chat on George Webb’s show, part of his community. When George first met Jason, he was not livestreaming. Jason started putting their shows out on his channel, and that was one of the primary ways that Crowdsource the Truth grew. George’s audience quickly became Jason’s audience. George had built up quite a large following who were craving longer shows than his “man on the street” format allowed.
It did not take long between the time this crew got together and big stuff going down in the #LARPWar. The Port of Charleston got shut down, the Maersk shipping line got hacked by a virus originating in Ukraine, Who Spoofed the Seth Rich Files went viral…it was all happening in June 2017. This was also the time that the Mueller investigation was kicking off.
The story below of how Matt Couch’s intel drop from a “CIA source” was passed through alternative media channels then held up as factual shows how these LARPers operate in packs. One of the consequences of this particular operation was further promoting Jason Goodman, helping him paint the “victim narrative” that he uses as a smokescreen for his outfit.
Defango dropping the information while Dave Acton was on the line was perhaps an attempt to taint Dave by associating him with faulty intelligence – a similar attack vector was used by Robert David Steele against Alex Jones with his “slave children on Mars” LARP. Defango would later say “this came up in my call with Dave Acton”, maybe trying to add credibility to the tale.
Defango Somebody added some new elements to the story and then it surfaced on the Chans.
The Progressives were doing exactly this kind of information laundering with the Steele Dossier, Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike (founded by George Webb’s colleague). It’s just they had corrupt members of the FBI, CIA, State Department, DOJ and foreign intelligence services working on that mission. This LARP had Defango, Frank Bacon et al. The operators were different but the methodology was very similar.
LARPs Have Consequences
Why spend so much time looking into LARPs? These LARPs connect to the biggest stories of our times, WikiLeaks, Seth Rich, Ukraine, RussiaGate, PizzaGate, PedoWood, NXIVM, Epstein.
The characters may come across as mere YouTubers, but now we know that there is money changing hands behind the scenes and people who appear on the surface to be independent are actually connected together in networks collaborating on projects. For what purpose? “Reputation Defense” to me is like “anti-virus” software. We all know the virus companies make the viruses, even if that’s difficult to prove. Having an army of cyber-trolls sure puts you in an interesting position to run a protection racket, and there is evidence in the behavior of some of these people to indicate that is how they operate.
Lestat has been on a months-long smear campaign against me. Both he and Defango have turned on their former boss Thomas, and now bizarrely claim that he is my boss. I haven’t had a boss since I was 22 years old. Thomas is one of many sources I have interviewed for this multi-part investigation. The more I see him being attacked by the same people who lie about me, the more I sympathize with him. I thought Fiona Barnett got it bad from Internet stalkers but I have never seen someone under such relentless attack as Thomas, who was a private individual until he was doxxed by Defango in 2018 in what looks like an attempt to wrest control of the Cicada 3301 trademark away from he and his friend Michael Levine.
When Lestat published his latest lie about me, at first I turned the other cheek:
I let that slide, but they doubled down on it when Lestat had Fox on his show earlier this week:
…and then Fox came after me on Twitter:
Fox may claim that she “just wants to be left alone”, but this does not gel with her coming out of the woodwork to join in Lestat’s false narratives against me. I left her alone, and in return she lied about her interactions with me. Is it just another coincidence that Jason Goodman and Jan Irvin were also pushing the exact same #FakeNews narrative – that I run teams of trolls and sock puppet accounts to smear people – on the exact same day?
This tweet could be read in multiple ways. Is she admitting that she has a dedicated group of trolls working with her to do her bidding? Certainly, her team has multiple sock accounts. Is this a threat that she intends to use them?
She cries “I don’t want drama”…but later on that same day, she injected herself into it using one of her own sock puppet accounts @foxfire3131 – which has now vanished. They arrive, they attack, they spread disinformation, then they delete the account and pretend nothing ever happened – while accusing others of their own misdeeds. Honest people don’t need to behave that way.
Although the account had 0 followers, I was incorrect in saying on Twitter that it was brand new. She’d had this sock puppet in her arsenal since last Christmas:
Here she is tweeting out her full name herself. So why does she now claim it is “doxxing” for me to quote Thomas saying “Beth”? I will address these issues more in the next part to this series.
Fox did not attack alone, she came with a team which included at least one witch. They made a hashtag #IStandWithFox for their campaign and even their own standard:
Part of the team’s activities was false narratives:
As she was making these false statements, SharkBellyKelly blocked anyone that could challenge them.
I have already posted evidence above of what actually happened. Both Thomas and Fox tell the same story, and you can read the actual messages between the people involved in this post. The truth is different from what Kelly is saying here. Why did she feel compelled to weigh in with a false narrative even though she has no direct knowledge of the situation?
Lestat can call me all the names he wants but he did not actually post any evidence in this Tweet, it is a lie prima facie – no further digging required.
Fox put up the money to bring everyone together and start ShadowBox. Unless she got that money from some other source (an agency, perhaps?) there was no other financier. She is the only person known to have paid any expenses in relation to this ShadowBox idea and team. If there was somebody else then they are welcome to show the evidence for that. There should be receipts, bank transfers and so on. Hotel bills rack up quickly. People were flying to Texas, Mexico, New York. Trevor Fitzgibbon allegedly got $11,000.
Even if you buy Lestat’s claim that Fox was unable to make her own financial decisions and was pushed into everything, it was not Thomas’s money being spent. It was not Lestat or Defango’s money. Either Fox was the financier – or it was not her money. Which then begs the question…whose money was it?
Perhaps Fox is trying to distance herself from this operation given the many lawsuits around it. While I am sympathetic to such an objective, that does not give her the right to lie about me and misrepresent our interactions.
Fox has been a good, albeit sometimes reluctant, source for this series. She has answered most of my questions, but not all of them. I believed her claims on Lift the Veil that her vision for ShadowBox was a positive thing. She came across to me as a nice person who perhaps got wrapped up in a complicated emotional situation, which then fell apart. She seems to have been manipulated by all the men around her, Thomas, Defango, Lestat and Trevor in particular. Although there does seem to have been a romantic entanglement inappropriate for a married woman, Thomas told me he never slept with her.
There is a campaign on the Internet to label me as a friend or associate of Thomas Schoenberger, part of his “gang”. Therefore any time he is accused of stalking I get tarred with the same brush, because they say he is a gang-stalker and therefore he must have a gang and therefore I must be in it. I have never even met the guy, and therefore I’m in no position to endorse or judge any of his actions. I have hundreds of great friends, I’ve met all of them and I know what all of them look like.
TS is his own man and makes his own choices in life. If he wants to defend himself on social media, that’s on him, not me. Remember that these people pointing fingers and screeching the loudest now, Fox, Defango, Lestat, all knew him personally and DID work with him – loved him, even.
On the one hand, Thomas has always acted like a gentleman to me. He has answered difficult questions, supplied evidence to back up his claims, and introduced me to witnesses who provided further verification. His stories have remained consistent over time, including as new details have emerged from third parties. That’s what happens when you tell the truth. There is no question that there is a campaign to demonize him, but that doesn’t automatically make him a demon. On the other hand, the people behind the campaign attacking Thomas are some of the shadiest characters I’ve ever come across, and many of them also attack me with lies – in gangs. Where is their evidence? Where is their integrity?
Fox is now playing the role of a traumatized victim of Thomas’ stalking. This narrative is lapped up by Lestat and his audience, because it is the one they have been pushing heavily since ShadowBox fell apart. Fox should develop Cicada 3301 with Defango and Lestat, Thomas is evil. Michael should be shut out and forced to disavow Thomas. Anyone who refuses to denounce Thomas is evil and works for him as a gangstalker. I call this The Narrative. There is some evidence these people have shown to support this narrative, but there is also much evidence against it.
There are always at least two sides to every story, and I have gone to great lengths to get all the different sides to this one. I am sharing it all with readers here as best as I can, there is a vast volume of information. Unpacking it to make it all simple, to describe it in a sentence, is easier said than done.
Basically, it’s a love triangle gone wrong, with a Hollywood story as an underpinning. That’s how I see it.
Who’s right, Thomas or Fox? Is Thomas evil and Fox good? Or are Defango, Lestat, Bobby, Daniel Doud, Monkey Savant, Cheri the good guys, trying to make the world a better place?
I simply can’t see this story in such simplistic terms. To me, there is wrongdoing everywhere I look. There are also good intentions. I really think all of the people involved here see themselves as good people, even though they point fingers at the others as being the worst, “garbage people” as Defango likes to call his critics.
People scream at me on Twitter about Thomas’s past convictions, yet conveniently overlook the rap sheets of many of the other people involved. To some this information from the past is relevant, but I am specifically focused on the disinformation campaigns that have been running in the alt-media for the last three years or so. I don’t consider what happened in the Nineties and Noughties to be part of the story. I’ve met people from all walks of life and I try not to judge others on past mistakes. What I see them doing in the present is how I assess their character. Are they honest? Do they play games? Are they LARPing?
Who is telling the truth? Can they back it up with any evidence? Who is lying? How many times have they been caught lying in the past?
Who puts these plan together? Who came up with the money in the past? Who is financing things now? How does Defango get a spare Bitcoin to offer as a reward for Thomas’ “capture”? Since when are there nationwide manhunts for probation violations?
The main weapon in the Information War is deception, distraction, disinformation, discrediting, disruption. The warriors behind it are trying to divide and conquer, creating chaos then attempting to polarize groups around opposing positions.
There is only one truth. Present all the evidence, let’s get to the truth. We can get there together. There are no ad hominem attacks here, that’s a sign of a person who doesn’t have an argument. We don’t need screenshots out of context: show us the whole email, the whole conversation. You want to offer an opinion, spin up a narrative? Go right ahead. Just show us the facts that you’re basing it on. Give us Muh Citations.
Truth is the way to fight LARPs. #RealResearch
In the next part to this series I will respond to the false allegations Fox, Lestat and the rest of their gang have made about me – as usual, and in stark contrast to my opponents, with evidence.