Radical Self Expression, Meet “No DickHeads”

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Baron de Merxhausen just posted this on the Burning SEED Australia Facebook group. It’s interesting to see the Regionals struggling to get to grips with the Tin Principles That Are Just Guidelines, and very real issues like Consent and Decent Standards of Behavior to each other that don’t even appear in the principles. There were also some serious health concerns at this year’s event, which I will discuss at the end of the post.

 


by Baron de Merxhausen

I’ve noticed that the Radical Self-Expression principle has been getting a lot of air time, and as someone who likes to talk about anarchy, I thought I’d drop in my two cents about ideas of freedom and liberty and how they relate to RSE.

I’ll try to keep it as succinct as I can, but I’m a very flawed person so it will probably be very long and there may be some ranty bits. You might enjoy reading this if you ever find yourself wondering about what any of this hippy nonsense actually means.
* Feel free to interrogate any and all assertions made.

My feeling is that Burns tend to adopt a ‘liberal’ model of operation – people enjoy both positive liberties (I can fulfil my own potential aka freedom TO) and negative liberties (I won’t be interfered with aka freedom FROM). Liberties are like freedoms, except freedoms do not imply a limit, obligation or boundary while liberties acknowledge that we are social and therefore have to reconcile our obligations within a community. In other words, liberties have implied *potential* limitations. RSE would be positive liberty- the freedom to express yourself in whatever way you please. That it is a liberty and not a true freedom, the implication that it has boundaries remains.

Image: Nomakim Photography

Image: Nomakim Photography

There seems to be some tension where RSE is unclear on how much it is restrained by other people’s negative liberties – what exactly are we entitled to be free from? Which is another way of asking what non-interference actually means. How safe are we when people can express their inner psychopath?

There seems to be some consensus on consent being key, but where is the line drawn?
Consent was a really big focus this year, because consent is essentially about establishing where we are placing the boundary between what we don’t have to put up with and everything else.

There’s an added complication on this boundary when we take into account the tension between what is ‘offensive’ and what is ‘harmful’. That’s a really big discussion, and it varies from person to person, though for the sake of our community (principles 6+7) we need to try and do our best to make these lines consistent.

My personal feeling is that although there seems to be a strong call-out culture, emotional resilience is a trait we should try and cultivate so that the world isn’t quite as big and bad. I think many of you will agree that letting kids build cubbies and play in the dirt is a good thing for their development, despite it containing elements of risk. The same is true of our psychology; a little bit of muck, confrontation, repair and tolerance builds a versatile character.

So we have to ask ourselves when something is happening to/around us – is this thing *really* harming anyone? Is what I am doing going to hurt someone? We do these kinds of little calculations all the time, but there are times when we’ve got to dig a little deeper because of some nagging doubt, or someone shoots us a certain kind of look or gesture.

I do not subscribe to the position that a sense of a trigger alone is harm, and I think part of fulfilling our negative liberty is to allow others their space if we can see it’s not going to do any real or significant harm to ourselves or others, in which case our communal obligation might be to just walk away. With that said, I think the fundamental rule should be that if someone tells you to leave them alone, you should do just that.

This kind of discussion is especially relevant to issues such as ‘inappropriate’ jokes, cultural appropriation, et al. For example, a rape joke does not make you a rapist, they are seriously and qualitatively different things, and despite the cultural impact of such utterances (normalising, victim-blaming, etc) are bad, they are not in-and-of themselves particularly harmful. Does that mean the person should be treated like a rapist? No. Does that mean they’re good? No. Can you talk to them about it? Of course.

So in the context of a Burn, Radical Self Expression is there to try and say in a fun way, ‘do whatever the fuck you want so long as you don’t hurt anyone/thing**’.

This can be a double-edged sword because people have a fair degree of liberty to be dickheads within this framework. Of course this can be a bad thing, but it has a tendency to favour those who are positively expressing and cause those who are negatively expressing to both lose cred and see better examples. Compare this to the Meredith Music Festival’s model of ‘No Dickheads’, which, when someone is officially called out, will see them booted from the festival after a single warning. Not much opportunity for the kind of rehabilitative learning we’d like, but then, there’s also less dickheads (relative term).

I think the most experienced failure of RSE is where people aren’t (what others might think) just being jerks, but when they’re genuine creeps. That seems to me to be an intentional misinterpretation of RSE made by creepers, and why consent became such a big issue after last year’s Burn.

It’s a hard argument to make when your Expression, Gift or Effort harms someone, that it’s really coming from a positive place. We’ve heard stories of people given drugged food, without consent, and we’ve heard stories of people aggressively ‘sharing’ their personality with others-that did a lot more than offend someone.

In my view, Civic Responsibility is about acting on a considered and communicated negotiation between how we let people be their fullest selves and how we get together as a community to prevent ourselves from harm. This negotiation is an ongoing thing that changes along with the needs and desires of the community… but what do I really mean by this?

Is this is a Tree Wizard with a magical pied piper flute? Image: Nomakim Photography

Is this is a Tree Wizard with a magical pied piper flute? Image: Nomakim Photography

One of my serious peeves is with fucking *Tree Wizards*.
I apologise to those wonderful Tree Wizards out there for using this as my pejorative term for people (usually men) who espouse an esoteric way of life full of peace and love, but do little to critically analyse, engage with, or otherwise act upon the stuff they are talking about. Further, they act in ways that are fundamentally opposed to what they’re talking about.

In a vacuum, this problem of mine should be for me to grow up and deal with, but in my experience (and I’ve said this before) all the people I’ve met who’ve claimed to be gurus or shaman I’ve found to be not just charlatans, but genuine creeps.

There’s something both deluded and dangerous tied to the solipsistic belief that your word is the most profound around. It’s why they avoid any real critical evaluation within any proper or even basic philosophical or scientific framework – because it would expose them for what they really are: the hollow sophists and politicians of the hippy community, caught up in a massive ego trip, and using a few flowery tricks to snaffle sparkle ponies. It’s like the Game for Confest dudebros.

We allow these wolves-in-sheep’s clothing far more passes within our community because they don’t speak like, or look like, your serial Stereosonic fare, but my feeling is they are much more dangerous because they are insidious.

In my opinion, Civic Responsibility is helping both giving people tools to see if people are full of shit, and also responding appropriately to behaviour that is fucked.

What do you think that would look like?
If people can come up with responses, that is the community negotiating.

Soz for the long post.


Burners.Me:

Thanks to the Baron for that thought-provoking piece, and for giving us the term Tree Wizards. You can follow the discussion on Facebook, there are some great comments.

Burning Seed, one of two Australian official Regional events, opened this year with a deadly disease scare. Many people are reported sick after the event. Some attribute this to swimming in a dam, which apparently was prohibited in the Survival Guide. The organizers are emphasizing on Facebook that swimming in the dam is explicitly against the rules in their use of the property.

BMOrg, with their nearly three decades of experience in throwing events at remote locations, could offer a lot to their Regional Network in helping them deal with biohazard and consent issues. More established doofs in Australia like Rainbow Serpent and Earthcore don’t seem to have these problems, but they have little incentive to help an emerging competitor.

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Selling Out Part II: Who Could It Be Now?

[Selling Out – Part I – Wrapping the Gifting]

There is no direct evidence that Burning Man has been sold, or is planned to be sold. Just a mounting pile of circumstantial evidence, and the crumbling credibility of the official stories we’ve all been told over the last few years. There has been a notable absence of activity from their newest non-profit, which is now well into its third year. We’re still waiting to see the transparency we were promised earlier in the year, and wondering why exactly transparency takes more than 6 months to achieve. That kind of suggests there are things that they don’t want to be seen, right? Things that they have to clean up or shuffle out of the way before they can show us.

The shocking story of a Burning Man director’s involvement in providing financial backing and promotional impetus to a multi-million dollar commodification camp, has been met with the usual stoney silence from BMOrg. The news would have been no surprise to them, since all the money-making camps have to be registered and permitted. They knew about it, and encouraged it. They even changed the rules to facilitate it, and had community discussions promoting the plug-n-play concept. Caravancicle seemed to have no problem finding 120 tickets for its coterie of have-popsicle-will-travel jetset clientele.

Plug-n-play is here to stay. It seems that it has been quite deliberately introduced to the Playa, over a number of years, with the backing of BMOrg’s Board of Directors. BMOrg know this is going on and are actively facilitating it, presumably for the most obvious and sensible reason: it makes their event more commercially valuable.

Here are some potential contenders who might buy Burning Man.

1. AirBnB

AirBnB recently received a major, $400 million+ investment from a consortium led by the Texas Pacific Group. This brought the startup which spun out of YCombinator into the 11 digit club, valuing it at $10 billion. AirBnB are interested in Alternative Forms of Housing. Their offices in San Francisco are decorated like some of the houses available in their network.

Right before Burning Man, BMOrg changed around their Board. Ashram Galactica founder Chris Weitz stepped down, though his wife Mercedes Martinez retained her place. Rae Richman remained on Board, but switched her Default World job. Previously, she worked for Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors as their West Coast VP. Now she works for AirBnB, as head of Global Citizenship. Her brief includes volunteering, Gifting and Civic Responsibility. Burning Man director Chip Conley also switched jobs. Previously, he founded Joie De Vivre hotels, and built it up to be the world’s largest boutique hotel operator. This was bought out by John Pritzer. The Pritzker family are the main wealth behind Hyatt hotels. Chip Conley now works for AirBnB also, as head of Global Hospitality and Strategy. He also owns Fest300, which aims to be the Fortune 500 of festivals. Burning Man is in the list, so we have at least one Director of BMOrg who sees Burning Man as a festival.

Image from SK8 Camp AirBnB ironic ad

Image from SK8 Camp AirBnB ironic ad

The connection with AirBnB is even deeper than 2 of Burning Man’s 18 Directors being directly employed by them in senior, full-time positions. This year AirBnB was selling space on the Playa also. If you wanted to launch a new ironic revenue stream at Burning Man, how would you do it? You’d find the most “anti” version of what you want to do, and launch it that way. An idea so ludicrous, it must be a farce. In this case, what’s the noisiest place on the Playa? Other than being directly in front of some of the sound systems, it would have to be underneath the ramp at SK8 camp. They were selling rooms there for $15/each, which we covered in AIRBNB4BRC – SK8RGR8. Although this was doubted at the time, we have since seen comments on Facebook from people who claimed to have rented the rooms. Someone else was inspired to list space in their dome on AirBnB.

As with hotels, something that started at Burning Man as irony can rapidly, even Immediately, evolve into real commercialization.

2. LiveNation

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Burning Man Project Director Matt Goldberg

Burning Man appointed 2 new Directors before Burning Man, without any fanfare. One of them, Matt Goldberg, used to be the CEO of Lonely Planet – backpacker travel guides. Now his day job is the Senior Vice President of Global Market Development for QVC. QVC is the Home Shopping Network. Why would Burning Man think that someone from the Home Shopping Network could help them throw their annual party, or spread Burner art around the world? Maybe because the boss of QVC is the boss of Live Nation, too.

Internet mogul Barry Diller, married to Diane von Furstenberg, bought QVC for $25 million in 1992. Diller is a regular guest at Herb Allen’s Burning Mogul in Sun Valley. He sold QVC to Comcast, who then sold it to Liberty Media. This is owned by mega-billionaire John Malone, a telecommunications guru who is a major shareholder in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp, DirectTV, and Sirius XM. These links might seem unconnected to Burning Man, but Liberty is also the biggest shareholder in Live Nation, owning a whopping 26% stake worth more than a billion dollars. Liberty’s Chairman John Malone is also the Chairman of Live Nation. Live Nation merged with Ticketmaster in 2010, and is the largest event promoter in the world. Live Nation owns a number of venues including the Fillmore, the Punch Line and 12 House of Blues.

Live Nation is getting into EDM in a big way. They bought a 50% stake in Burner Pasquale Rotella’s Insomniac, producers of the Electric Daisy Carnival. Insomniac were at Burning Man this year, their camp Wide Awake was widely described as being excellent.

Insomniac and Live Nation are facing a class action lawsuit from festival volunteers who were paid with free tickets. From magneticmag:

It alleges that “wages were illegally withheld from ‘volunteers’ of the companies’ music festivals, concerts and other events”.  The suit, which can be viewed on classaction.org, states that both Insomniac and Live Nation recruited volunteers to do the work of paid employees at on-site stores, merchandise tents, water stations, and information booths in exchange for admission to festivals, with promised time off to enjoy the show.

The suit claims that the compensation was “highly overstated and essentially worthless” as volunteers were not given any time off to view the show, and were also not given federally mandated breaks for lunch, etc.   Also, it claims that volunteers were also promised the “opportunity to learn the inner workings of a festival environment”, but were often assigned to more menial customer service positions.

3. SFX/Robert Sillerman

Robert Sillerman started the business that was bought by Clear Channel and then spun out as Live Nation, by acquiring events, packaging them up for re-sale to a bigger corporation.

In 2012 the New York Times ran a story on Sillerman, with the headline Mogul To Increase Bets On Electronic Dance Music

Sillerman2Robert F. X. Sillerman, the media executive who transformed the live music business in the 1990s by combining regional concert promoters into the nationwide powerhouse that became Live Nation, has returned to the business with the first of what he expects will be a string of investments in electronic dance music, the industry’s latest trend.

Echoing his strategy in the concert business, Mr. Sillerman is pursuing independent companies that put on dance festivals, D.J. parties and other events where the crowds might range from a few hundred people to tens of thousands. He said in an interview on Monday that his first acquisition was Disco Productions, a Louisiana company that was founded by a rave promoter, Donnie Estopinal, and puts on events throughout the country.

Mr. Sillerman, 64, said that in addition to that deal he was in negotiations with up to 50 other companies, and had tentative agreements with about 15 of them. He declined to disclose terms of the Disco Productions deal, but said that he expected his new company — which is called SFX Entertainment, reviving the name of his earlier concert business — to spend $1 billion on acquisitions within a year, and that he wanted to take it public this summer.

The plan for SFX, Mr. Sillerman said, is still being formulated but will involve using the Internet to connect fans of dance music. If his strategies from the 1990s are a guide, he might also want to deliver this aggregated audience to major advertisers and marketers.

“There’s a wave of interest in attending concerts that have less to do with the specific music and more to do with the experience attached to the music,” he said, referring to the immersive appeal of many large-scale dance events. “Our thought is that the experience of attending an individual event can be perpetuated and made better by connecting the people, not just when they’re consuming the entertainment but when they’re away from it.”

Perpetuating the experience when they’re away from the festival…sound familiar?

Sillerman’s SFX acquired popular DJ site Beatport.com, and shut down their San Francisco office in a “bloodbath“. Last year they were in a bidding war against LiveNation for Insomniac Productions, who put on Electric Daisy Carnival. Despite SFX offering $100 million, Live Nation ended up with 50% of Insomniac for $50 million. Sillerman would be looking for a similar scale event that he could buy for his $100 million, an asset of equivalent quality to Insomniac.

SFX also bought a 75% stake in ID & T. ID & T are internationally known for their massive EDM events, including Tomorrowland, Sensation, and Mysteryland. Post acquisition, SFX announced the first TomorrowWorld in Georgia and the U.S. debut of Mysteryland in Bethel Woods, the site of Woodstock ’69.

[Update 9/15/14 10:28am] See comments – reader CW has further details:

Sillerman offered $100MM for BM three and a half years ago and was shut down with a stout NO THANKS.

Another interesting note… One of the guys behind Robot Heart just sold/merged his mercenary company into XO (Formerly Black Water). He is now the CEO of XO, the largest mercenary company in the world.

[Update 9/17/14  10:58pm]

This is a Playa rumor, confirmed not to be true. Robot Heart is a non-profit. There was no booing of Diplo and Skrillex either.

Another reader has speculated that an acquisition could explain why Harley Dubois is still working there after resigning in 2008.

4. Clear Channel, Bob Pittman

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Pittman, L, in front of a Spider Dhome at Burning Man 2014

Pittman’s Clear Channel was giving media interviews from the Playa this year, launching a technology he is pioneering and selling in a high end Plug-n-Play camp. His inflatable Dhomes will be rented for $5-10k per week. Before being Chairman and CEO of Clear Channel, Pittman ran AOL Time Warner, Century 21 Real Estate, and MTV.

Clear Channel and Live Nation used to be the same company before splitting. Their interest in Burning Man could be similar. Like me, Pittman believes that magic has a place in business:

“Someone told me early on when you are trying to solve a problem it’s the mix of math and magic. Understanding the problem, the analytical and then you need to have the creativity, you got to have the first of a magical ideal to solve the problem and I think that is what creativity is.”

The CEO of Clear Channel, which owns 850 radio stations, told The Hollywood Reporter last year that he enjoys the event because, “One of the problems of aging if you’re a creative person is that you tend to narrow your world. It opens my eyes to possibilities.”

From the Hollywood Reporter (2013):

It’s not every day that the CEO of a leading entertainment company turns off his smartphone, puts away the iPad and flies himself to get lost in the Nevada desert for a weekend. But that’s precisely what Clear Channel’s Bob Pittman did on a recent Friday as he left his office at New York’s 75 Rockefeller Plaza and piloted his own Falcon 900 jet to Burning Man — for the 10th straight year.

“I find Burning Man to be so innovative,” he says. “One of the problems of aging if you’re a creative person is that you tend to narrow your world. It opens my eyes to possibilities.”

…Pittman’s eclectic experiences make him the right fit for Clear Channel’s diverse range of offerings, including its top priority, iHeartRadio. Since 2008, the audio service and app, which allows its more than 30 million users to listen to any Clear Channel station in the country, has seen a successful push into nonterrestrial areas at a time when traditional radio is being threatened by the likes of Pandora, Spotify and iTunes.

Burning Man has had radio stations for more than 20 years, set up by former USAF intelligence officer and BMOrg director of propaganda Stuart Mangrum. This year, BMOrg announced that they had partnered with Clear Channel’s “top priority”, iHeartRadio.

5. Elon Musk

Elon MuskElon has made no secret of his love for Burning Man. Rather, he’s shouting it from the rooftops. In response to Beavis and Butthead founder Mike Judge’s new show Silicon Valley, Elon said Judge should go to Burning Man before he judged: Burning Man IS Silicon Valley.

Recently Elon announced that he will be building Tesla’s Gigafactory at the World’s Largest Industrial Park in Reno/Sparks. This may create jobs in the area for Burners with fabrication and design skills, or lower-level factory workers. Nevada allows Lithium mining, which will be useful for the battery factory.

From the Reno Gazette-Journal:

The tax incentive package assembled by Gov. Brian Sandoval to woo Tesla’s gigafactory is unprecedented in size and scope for the state of Nevada and is one of the largest in the country.

The overall value to Tesla is estimated to be $1.25 billion over 20 years — a figure that is more than double the $500 million package CEO Elon Musk said would be required to draw the company.

If the deal is approved by the Nevada Legislature, Tesla will operate in the state essentially tax free for 10 years.

tesla-reno-gigafactory-site-1-KTNV-Channel-13In exchange, the company must invest a minimum of $3.5 billion in manufacturing equipment and real property in the state—a threshold that is much lower than the $10 billion state officials expect the company to invest in Nevada over the next two decades.

The economic development officials who assembled the tax incentive package argue the massive size of the abatement is justified by the scope of the gigafactory project, which is one of the largest economic development deals in the country.

“What this can do for the region… It will allow every under employed person to reach full employment,” said Sandoval’s economic development director Steve Hill. “It will lift up everyone in the region. Property values will go up. The prosperity of the region will be materially changed.”

rendering-of-tesla-battery-gigafactory-outside-reno-nevada-sep-2014_100479365_mEconomic development officials anticipate the gigafactory—a three-story behemoth with more than 5 million square feet of manufacturing space—will generate a $100 billion economic impact over 20 years.

“To put that into perspective, that is more than 3 percent of the state’s GDP. It is more than 20 percent of the region’s economic output,” Hill said.

The factory would employ 6,500 people with an average wage about $25 an hour. Indirect jobs created could reach 22,000—a number equivalent to 2 percent of the state’s entire work force and 11 percent of the region’s workforce.

But the tax breaks the company would receive with the Legislature’s blessing are also staggering. The total package is 13 times larger than the state’s previous record-breaking $89 million for Apple.

According to USA Today, Elon’s partner in the deal also owns the famous Mustang Ranch brothel.

there are two ways to look at Lance Gilman of Storey County, Nev., the businessman whose industrial center is set to house Tesla’s massive Gigafactory.

To some, he is a major player when it comes to economic development in Nevada, a state that is still clawing its way out of a recession. To others, Gilman is also seen as a flesh peddler — he’s owner of the famous Mustang Ranch brothel, legally operated in Storey County just east of Reno.

Gilman is the principal and director of the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center, billed as the largest industrial park in the world. As Storey County Manager Pat Whitten put it, Gilman is “the lead economic engine for Northern Nevada.”

Besides Tesla, he’s lured major companies to his park, which has become a cash cow of tiny Storey County. The park is located just outside the county limits of the Reno-Sparks metropolitan area and includes companies such as Kal-Kan, Wal-Mart, Dell Computers and Toys R Us. The industrial park is next to coast-to-coast interstate highway and rail systems, so it sells itself. Yet Gilman closes the deals.

He is also an integral part of the negotiations to bring Tesla Motors’ $5 billion Gigifactory project to the industrial park he represents.

Meanwhile, Gilman got into the brothel business about a decade ago with his Wild Horse Canyon Ranch brothel. He later bought the Mustang Ranch, which was previously owned by the notorious Joe Conforte — who escaped to Brazil to avoid federal prosecution for tax evasion.

When the Mustang re-opened under Gilman’s ownership in 2007, Conforte appeared via live video feed at a grand opening celebration to give a few words and pass the mantle off to Gilman.

When Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told the Nevada Legislature in 2011 it was time to ban legal prostitution in Nevada, he did not mention Gilman by name, but it was apparent who he was speaking about.

Owning Burning Man seems like a distraction for a guy who creates Hyperloops in his spare time. Elon already has the world’s attention. Maybe he wants to Burn in space.

6. Black Rock’s Childs

A contender from the name alone. BlackRock was founded in 1988 as a division of BlackStone, before Burning Man went out to the BlackRock Desert, but just after the event had started.  In 1992, after Burning Man had relocated to the Black Rock Desert, it changed its name from Blackstone Financial Management to BlackRock. It is now the world’s largest asset manager, and has been called “the most influential financial institution in the world”. From The Economist, the Monolith and the Markets:

BlackRock…is the world’s biggest investor. Founded in 1988, it has $4.1 trillion in assets under management, making it bigger than any bank, insurance company, government fund or rival asset-management firm. It single-handedly manages almost as much money as all the world’s private-equity and hedge funds. Though its holdings are mostly equities—it is the biggest shareholder in half of the world’s 30 largest companies—it also holds bonds, commodities, hedge funds, property and just about anything anyone would ever want to invest in 

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Billionaire Burner David de Rothschild

With $4.59 trillion under management, $100 million or so for Burning Man would be nothing to them. Black Rock and Black Stone are gigantic investment companies that have been connected to the trillionaire Rockefellers and Rothschilds. Both families have members who attend Burning Man and hang out with the Founders at First Camp. Burning Man Project Director Rae Richman was working for them, before moving to AirBnB. The Rockefellers have recently been co-investing alongside TPG, who just put about half a billion into AirBnB. Burning Man Founder Michael Mikel got his Silicon Valley start working for a Rockefeller company, Fairchild Semiconductor.

I met one of the Rockefellers last year at a charity event, where we shared a table with BMOrg workers who were all very chummy with him. I also previously met Justin Rockefeller, also a Burner. David de Rothschild “Plastic Jesus” is proud to tell the press about his Burning Man visits.

If you owned half of the world’s biggest companies, many of which employ Burners in key roles, why wouldn’t you want to own the coolest thing in the world too?

The two mighty families recently joined forces:

“Rothschild  “is to buy a 37 per cent stake in the Rockefeller’s wealth advisory and asset management group for an undisclosed sum, giving Lord Rothschild’s London-listed trust a much sought-after foothold in the US.”

The Financial Times states that the transnational, transatlantic union “brings together David Rockefeller, 96, and Lord Rothschild, 76 – two family patriarchs whose personal relationship spans five decades.”

“The Rockefeller group traces its roots back to 1882 when John D. Rockefeller established one of the world’s first family offices dedicated to investing his wealth. It has since developed into a provider of wealth and asset management services to other families, foundations and institutions. It is majority-owned by the 19th century oil magnate’s family and has $34bn of assets under administration.”

The founder of Blackstone, which spawned BlackRock, is also the Chairman of David Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission, and a former member of the same Skull and Bones secret society that Presidents George Bush Sr and Jr, and Secretary of State and Presidential Candidate John Kerry were part of. From publicintelligence.net

Peter G. Peterson, the cofounder of the Blackstone Group, is the Chairman Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, as well as the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York prior to Timothy Geithner. 6  He is also the founder and chairman of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a globalist think tank that is financially supported by David Rockefeller and Maurice Greenberg’s Starr Foundation. 7  C. Fred Bergsten, the Director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, is a North American Steering Committee member of the Trilateral Commission; David Walker, President and CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation in New York is also a Trilateral commission member.8  Both Peter G. Peterson9and Timothy Geithner10 are former Trilateral Commission members.  James Dimon, Timothy Geithner, and Stephen A. Schwarzman are all members of the Council on Foreign Relations.  James Dimon is also a Class A director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Mr. Schwarzman was a also member of the Skull and Bones society at Yale University.111213

From Wikipedia:

Members of the Rockefeller family into the fourth generation (especially the prominent banker and philanthropist David Rockefeller, who is the present family patriarch) have been heavily involved in international politics, and have donated money to, established or been involved in the following major international institutions:

The Rockefeller and Rothschild families represent the top of the pyramid of the Illuminati. If the Illuminati were just a conspiracy theory, then someone should’ve told George Washington. In 1798 he said:

“It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.”

They were founded in 1776, as a response from old European banking families to the American Declaration of Independence. Their goal is a New World Order. The United Nations, which spun out of Bohemian Grove and the Presidio military base, is one of their instruments for achieving that goal.

Illuminati have had a strong interest in the occult Ancient Mysteries that Burning Man is based on, for centuries. The black magick side of the event – the world’s largest Pagan ritual – could be very attractive to these people.

the Rothschild Opus One winery in Napa looks a little like the BRC layout. Mrs Rothschild recently passed away there, on the night of the big earthquake

the Rothschild-owned Opus One winery in Napa is shaped like the Freemasons Square and Compass symbol. It also looks a little like the BRC layout. Mrs Rothschild recently passed away there, just before the big earthquake hit

The financial potential of Burning Man would be of no interest to them, but the network of thought leaders “washing their own brains” in the Cult of Burning Man could be very useful indeed. Burning Man would be a toy for someone in these families, like purchasing a painting or a classic car. The database of increasingly detailed profiles on Burners could be demographic gold, many of the world’s movers and shakers and creators in one place at once time. Ready to be influenced, by whatever messaging the New World Order requires them to receive.

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7. Google

Google have made no secret of their deep ties to Burning Man. They were the first company to commercially exploit the event, when they used the Burning Man logo to advertise their search engine shortly after they launched, in 1998. They commercially exploited it again, prototyping their Google Maps and Glass technologies on the Playa. Their YouTube division sells advertising on videos filmed at Burning Man, so Google are actively monetizing Burning Man every second.

google doodleSome of the technology behind Google came via Interval Research, a thinktank in Palo Alto funded by Paul Allen, the guy who started Microsoft with Bill Gates. In 1994, Burning Man Project Director Leo Villareal was an intern there, when he first went to Burning Man – at the time, being promoted as the physical manifestation of cyberspace.

Google spun out of Stanford, and was initially financed by the CTO of Sun Microsystems – a hardware and software company  which also spun out of Stanford (and is now part of Oracle). Stanford Professor Fred Turner has written about the way Silicon Valley’s culture has been shaped by the military, as well as how Google’s culture has been shaped by Burning Man. He has hailed Burning Man as a new frontier for Cultural Creatives, and a model that corporations should follow for cross-disciplinary collaboration in content farms. So there is an academic justification for Google and Burning Man being linked. Recently, Google founder Larry Page said he wished he had more “free experimentation zones” like Burning Man, where they could trial new technologies without having to release it everywhere at once. Some of the art cars are now apparently self-driving.

Larry Harvey has compared Burning Man’s culture of Gifting and Civic Responsibility, with Google’s policy of giving employees 20% of their time to work on pet projects – something that seems custom made for Burning Man art projects.

The Google founders recently threw their own camping event, an elite conference in Sicily called The Camp. They could have bought Burning Man at any time in the last 10 years. Maybe they did…

8. Facebook.

Facebook's "Illuminati" Hoodie

Facebook’s “Illuminati” Hoodie

We know that Facebook founders Mark Zuckerberg, Dustin Moskovitz, and the Winklevoss twins are all Burners, as are many other Facebook employees. Zuckerberg helicoptered in for 24 hours and handed out grilled cheese sandwiches. Billionaire Burner Moskovitz penned a blog post in defense of the 1%-ers at Burning Man. From Medium:

I’m sure many of you have come across the ongoing debate that is heating up right now around the idea of wealthy individuals paying to have a provided experience at Burning Man. There have been some great write-ups on the topic on both sides, but I wanted to offer my personal experience since I haven’t seen much representation yet by “the 1%” themselves. Last week was my 5th year on the playa, and my feelings on the subject have radically changed as my relationship with the festival and the community has deepened. I’ve gone from feeling like an outsider to becoming a judgmental veteran and back again, more than a few times (sometimes in the same week). Nearly every day, I am reminded of the feeling that I’m on the wrong side of a never-ending class war that sadly divides us, but I’ve gained a lot of perspective and acceptance thanks to specific experiences related to being a burner. And I’m still learning, no matter how many times I think I’ve reached the end

Billionaire Burner Moskovitz at Burning Man 2013. He is to the left, clinging on to the structure with his shirt off

Billionaire Burner Moskovitz at Burning Man 2013. I think that’s him to the left, clinging on to the structure with his shirt off

He thinks the influx of VCs to the event is going to help save the world:

It includes a reference to Mark Zuckerberg “helicoptering in to serve grilled cheeses.” I’ll go ahead and confirm the rumor, since it’s clearly out there now anyway. The implication in the article is that he paid into a turnkey experience, but I know he was a guest in the camp I built and no money changed hands. Along with its other inhabitants, he helped pitch his own tent. I wanted him to experience the city and to experience gifting because I thought it would make him grow as a person and the world better off as a result; I believe that’s exactly what happened, however marginally (he was already a pretty great person). I’ve seen this occur countless times. Burning Man is a direct contributor to Cari’s and my decision to start Good Ventures, and to my Asana co-founder Justin’s realization that all the companies in the world are really part of One Project. I know many of the entrepreneur invaders and, without exception, they come back from their first year with a decreased interest in zero-sum competition and a deep appreciation of the fully connected and mutually supportive community. When I hear about anyone going for the first time, my immediate thought is “that is so great for them” and when they are a person who has pooled power or capital around them, it is usually followed by “that is so great for the world.”

Moskovitz and the Winklevi settled their beefs on the Playa, with hugs.

Tyler Winklevoss at Burning Man

Tyler Winklevoss at Burning Man

In spite of our tangled history I had never actually met them,” he wrote on a blog. “We only communicated through lawyers. These guys are among the only people on earth I might describe as real antagonists in my life or even enemies, but on playa my first instinct was that I quite obviously needed to introduce myself and start with hugs.

“They had just arrived so I wasn’t sure how they’d react, but they were very gracious at the time and I knew they’d understand more deeply by the time they left.

“Almost immediately when I got back, I had a Facebook friend request from Tyler and we started a thread mutually extolling the virtues of the festival. In no uncertain terms, he described a spiritual experience.”

He added: “I had created all kinds of dark fantasies about how meeting them would go (Tyler assures me it would have been cordial regardless,) but on playa it was laughably clear. There, we were all part of the same community. We were always part of the same community.”

Burning Man could be an amusing plaything for these Billionaire Burners, but they already own the coolest thing in the world. They know where all the parties are, and who’s on the guest list.  When you have a billion Likes, what do you need a bunch of trippers in the desert for?

9. Jim Tananbaum/Foresight Capital

jim-tananbaumforesite-capital-304xx283-424-23-0 (1)Burning Man’s latest director and Commodity Camping Caravancicler. Jim’s investment company is flush with cash, having recently raised $400 million for his latest healthcare fund. He’s looking for deals to do. Maybe he’s doing this one. He’s definitely got blood on his hands in terms of looking at the Playa as a thing that can be monetized. Defenders of his behavior online are few, but one comment made was that he is so rich, that any profit he could make from Burning Man is insignificant. Personally, even if that were true, I don’t think that’s much of a justification for what happened at his commodification camp.

A deal-maker like “JT” might see the potential in scrubbing BMOrg up into a real company, and then selling it back to the Burners who created it via an IPO.

He also could have been brought in as part of a broader deal team. He seems like the kind of guy you send into a company to get a big deal done…if you’re a pro. Or someone you want on your side advising you, if you’re not.

Another Burning Man Project Director, Jennifer Raiser, also has a healthcare background:

Previously, Jennifer was CEO of Raiser Senior Services, a full-service provider of luxury retirement in the Bay Area, combining health care, dining, and long-term care. She is the co-author of Designing Retirement Communities for the Future, John Wiley and Sons. Her previous experience includes marketing with Procter and Gamble and BBDO/Omnicom Advertising, and management consulting with Fortune 500 corporations.

I still can see no real connection between health care, senior care, and Burning Man.

10. Intelligence

For a really interesting look at the role Intelligence has played in the Arts, I highly recommend Miles Mathis’ short essay “From Theosophy to the Beat Generation – or How Even the Occult Was Disguised”.

The UK’s Independent newspaper in 1995 said Modern Art Was A CIA Weapon:

Because of the Cultural Cold War and The Mighty Wurlitzer, Intelligence is always a possibility. They have plenty of money. Billionaire Burner Jeff Bezos just did a $600 million deal with the CIA. The Burners at the helm of Facebook and Google have made millions of dollars from deals with the NSA. Oracle founder Larry Ellison’s kids are Burners, that was a CIA project before it was even a company. There are all manner of Alphabet Agencies out there on the Playa already. They already have all the data, all kinds of satellite and thermal imagery and technology that can see through walls. Burning Man right now fuels big budgets for the BLM and local cops, who can have shiny new trucks and all the latest hardware. Why mess with something that’s working? The Man is all over Burning Man.

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something for everyone, honey…

Intelligence don’t need to buy Burning Man, unless there is some strategic value for them in being able to influence its operations more directly. Like, disseminating propaganda to Burners who have washed their own brains, and taken hallucinogenic drugs to improve their suggestibility. Another possibility would be the “honey trap”, a classic intelligence technique that would be ridiculously easy to pull off at Burning Man. Basically, you meet a hot girl and think she’s interested in you. Really, she’s a spy, who may try to rob you, set you up, blackmail you, or introduce you to others who will then do that. This “oldest trick in the book” is most likely why Julian Assange is holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London right now. Intelligence could use Burning Man to inject people into social groups for the purposes of espionage, influence, addiction, or extortion. Another use could be detecting and then eliminating rival cartels. They know who the Burners are from social networks and phone metadata, it would be an easy next step to work out who is supplying the drugs to them. Yet we never hear about any big busts…


Perhaps Burning Man is not for sale, and this is all just Idol speculation. Perhaps I’m reading too much into the massive investment in lawyers and accountants, the complex corporate structure, the promotion of gentrification, and Burning Man’s board changes not being announced. Maybe it’s just pure coincidence that they put a guy from QVC on, and the same company that owns QVC owns Live Nation. Maybe it’s just coincidence that the Rockefeller employee who was on the Board shifted to AirBnB, and so did one of the other Burning Man Directors, and then AirBnB had Burning Man listings this year. Maybe it’s all One Big Farce. An ironic prank, with Burners as the victims.

It does not change the FACT that the Founders are selling up – if not to someone else, then at the very least to themselves, via the non-profit which will buy Burning Man’s intangible assets back from Decommodification LLC in a couple years. They’re bringing in new people and changing the way the event is run, taking it in a new strategic direction of some sort. The Festival is evolving, and the event in the desert is looking less significant to the organization’s future aspirations. This is the big retirement package they’ve made for themselves, the nest egg they’ve been able to create from 30 years of building Black Rock City. What of the workers, though? DPW and the Sherpas and the tens of thousands of volunteers? Where is the pension plan for them? Are they planned to be part of the “century of legacy?”

We will look at this in Part III.

Poppycock! It’s Punks, not Hippies

Chris Taylor at Mashable has responded to this week’s press that Burning Man has jumped the shark and rich people are one-upping each other with $25,000/head camps and sherpas. In Chris’s opinion, Burning Man is run by punks, and always has been.

From Mashable.com:

DPW Crew. Photo: Jessica Reeder

DPW Crew. Photo: Jessica Reeder

…Every time I read one of those articles — they are legion at this time of year and invariably seem to miss the point — I feel a bile rising, a furious urge to defend the festival I’ve attended, on and off, since 1999. This week’s New York Times style section story is a case in point. The author, Nick Bilton, is a smart guy, and he’s been to the event. He should know. But here he is telling one of many old and cliched untruths about the place:

If you have never been to Burning Man, your perception is likely this: a white-hot desert filled with 50,000 stoned, half-naked hippies doing sun salutations while techno music thumps through the air. A few years ago, this assumption would have been mostly correct.

Poppycock. That assumption has never been even close to correct…It is, and always has been, ruled by all kinds of techno-smart futuristic punks rather than nostalgic hippies or dippy ravers.

Consider: this is a week-long art party in a handmade city in an environment that is doing its level best to kill you. Either the sun is baking dry ground that is blinding white, leeching water from your body, or the wind is blasting mile-high storms of dust across this enormous barren plain at ninety miles an hour, or a starry desert night is damn-near freezing you to death…

punks headdressesWho thrives in that environment? People who are a little bit crazy, quite a bit determined, and a whole lot of wiry and smart. People with an Iggy Pop-style lust for life. Here are punks of all stripes: cyberpunks, steampunks, biker punks, punk punks. People who do what it says on the ticket — voluntarily assume the risk of death. People who are brought roaringly to life in this killer of a desert, and fight fiercely to build an all-inclusive volunteer-driven civilization that lasts for as long as a mayfly.

…Burning Man is crawling with law enforcement and officialdom; they’ve just gotten very good at blending in. The notion that you have complete freedom to openly flout federal or Nevada state law is a dangerous myth. The idea that, as Bilton suggests, “drugs are easier to find than candy on Halloween” is what leads the guy carrying the “I Need Drugs” sign to his inevitable arrest on the city’s main drag, the Esplanade.

…Leading the charge is the Department of Public Works, or DPW — the roughest, toughest, hardest-working punks of all. These are the men and women who come out to this hostile environment literally months in advance to drive the golden spike in the ground that marks the dead center of vast concentric horseshoe-shaped boulevards, to construct the vast public spaces of Center Camp and the (completely nondenominational) Temple, to build the Man just so you can watch him burn. It’s no wonder the DPW is famous for roaming the streets during the event demanding beer from unsuspecting strangers because “we built this city” (to which the only appropriate response, if you’re daring enough, is “on rock and roll.”)

…But what about the plates of sushi, the ridiculously decadent desert food the billionaires are bringing with them? Hundreds of camps do exactly the same thing — ridiculously overspend, beyond their means, on ridiculously decadent food that they keep in a series of coolers just so they can be ridiculously generous to friends at unexpected moments.

I have attended fabulous and random four-course dinner parties during sunset on the playa. I’ve seen camps bring tanks of liquid nitrogen just so they can make ice cream for anyone who stops by. One year I had the ridiculous notion to take Chinese food delivery orders from my camp long before the event. For those who took me seriously, I ordered, vacuum-packed and froze their meals the day I drove out, then heated and delivered the results to their tent doors in their original containers the next day. That sort of thing happens all the time. Bilton’s notion that nearly all Burners are eating ramen noodles is the column’s other tired cliche.

…The ultimate misconception about Burning Man, though, is that it’ll be around forever. The whole idea is that it won’t. The event is a celebration of impermanence and change — the clue is in the title, and in the vanishing city that gets packed in and packed out.

Larry Harvey, Burning Man co-founder, has long said he’s preparing for the day when it will be no more. Eventually the crush of extra people at an event that’s adding up to 10,000 new attendees each year will get too much, the culture will collapse, it really will jump the shark. It doesn’t matter, Harvey insists — the spirit of Burning Man burns brightly in dozens of what are known as regional Burns, held around the year.

For many grizzled veterans who no longer go, that day has already come. It doesn’t matter. People are always on the edge of phasing out of Burning Man; that’s why “it was better last year” is one of the most common memes on the playa, right up there with “leave no trace.”

So far, however, Black Rock City has absorbed far more immigrants than it has spat out emigrants. There’s healthy stream of new attendees (and yes, new tech billionaires) to replace the old. For all its sham, drudgery and imperfect visions, Burning Man the event, not just the spirit, is still gaining strength.

It’s high time we started seeing it for the phenomenal jerry-rigged punk-built human achievement it is — rather than the oft-ruined hippy fest of media legend — before it leaves no trace one last time.


One commenter here has pointed out that Happy Days went on to its highest ratings ever after Fonzie jumped the shark. Henry Winkler (Fonzie) and Ron Howard (Richie) also went on to hugely successful careers after that moment.

Fred Fox Jr, who wrote that episode, told the LA Times:

HiREs Fonz croppedIt aired Sept. 20, 1977, and was a huge hit, ranking No. 3 for the week with a 50-plus share (unheard of today) and an audience of more than 30 million viewers…All successful shows eventually start to decline, but this was not “Happy Days'” time. Consider: It was the 91st episode and the fifth season. If this was really the beginning of a downward spiral, why did the show stay on the air for six more seasons and shoot an additional 164 episodes? Why did we rank among the Top 25 in five of those six seasons?

What’s the difference between Happy Days and Burning Man? Happy Days never claimed to be changing the world. It was just something fun, for the purpose of entertainment.

“Dance Festivals Are The Best And Worst Places In The World” – Seth Troxler

DJ Seth Troxler has spoken to VICE about what he really thinks of festivals, and he’s not pulling any punches. A good read, containing some real wisdom about today’s “EDM Scene”. Seth sees Burning Man as the “perfect” festival. [Thanks to Burner Erika in Norway for this one]

The current state of dance music is crazy. It’s so flooded. Everywhere you look, there’s a new festival and a new party. I lived in New York City for 4 months recently, and there were about 50 Resident Advisor parties on one weekend. I mean, what the fuck? It’s the same with festivals now, too. Everyone is going into the boutique festival game and whilst I think it’s cool that people are going out and enjoying themselves, where do we draw that line over quality?
 
In light of this craziness, here’s my take on festivals, clubbing, and not being an asshole.
 
FIRST OFF, GOING TO DANCE FESTIVALS IS NOTHING LIKE GOING CLUBBING
 
 
I was in Switzerland recently, and a promoter complained to me that there’s a big problem in the country’s club scene because of how many festivals happen around Switzerland. He said that in the summer, it’s hard to get people to come to your club. People would rather spend their money going to festivals abroad, than going to clubs in their home cities. 
 
But that dude missed something: dance festivals and dance clubs are not the same. At all. This new generation care much more for the festival experience than the club experience. Kids who like dance music now have grown up with no first hand experience of original club culture; techno, house, even rave in the 90s. Festivals are their “dance music experience” now.  Festivals are fucking holidays. 
 
EDM FESTIVALS SPOON-FEED US BULLSHIT – AND WE CAN’T GET ENOUGH OF IT
 
 
When I get booked to play these massive festivals in the US, I often walk around them to see what they’re all about – and 90% of the time, it’s fucking horrible. We’re breeding a generation of impatient, annoying festival kids. I say impatient because the patience of the clubber is different to the patience of the festival-goer.
 
At these festivals, you get it all on a platter up-front. Lasers! LED screens! Pyrotechnics! DROPS! CAKE IN YOUR FUCKING FACE! – wait, nah man. That’s not clubbing, that’s a concert of cunts. Just, go out for a night in a dark room. Be cool. 
 
I was talking to a good friend of mine Craig Richards, and he said that back when he started going to clubs, there was even more patience: you’d vibe on the dance floor for hours, with space for your body and everyone else’s. Now people consider a “good event” something that’s really packed with bodies and “energy”:  energy-packed-extreme! That’s not clubbing, man. Clubbing is a culture, but EDM doesn’t promote that. If you’re Suzie who just graduated high school in Florida, you go to Ultra and think “Holy shit , Avicii is about to blow my panties off”. 
 
LET’S FACE IT, EDM DJS ARE THE WORST PEOPLE EVER
 
 
Speaking of Avicii, Avicii is a cunt. When he went to the hospital during Ultra in Miami, my tour manager Alex was with the nurse assigned to him. The fucking cunt wouldn’t even speak to the nurse. She would have to tell his manager what to tell him, and they were sitting next to each other. You’re in the hospital. You can’t talk to a nurse who’s trying to look after you? The insane stardom syndrome of these massive EDM DJs pisses me off. 
 
It’s not just a personal thing either. Their music is just shit. I’ve seen Steve Aoki play at these festivals. He keeps turning the music off, jumping around onstage, saying “This is my new single! Out next week!”, and playing the next song. You are not a fucking DJ. You’re an overpaid, untalented, cake-throwing, performing monkey. My best friend Frank from high school is now my PA, and he’s in the Little League Hall of Fame for being a crazy good pitcher. We’re going to him with that cake, man. I’m coming for you, Aoki. 
 
EDM IS NOT A CULTURE, BECAUSE IT GIVES NOTHING BACK
 
 
Look, I’m generally really happy for everyone. I try to keep positive about all this craziness. But if you’re not critical of the culture you live in, and love, then you’re doing yourself and everyone around you a disservice. EDM plays host to a profound delusion about what electronic music and dance culture are. It’s ridiculous music, made by ridiculous, un-credible people. 
 
In all honesty, I find it profoundly sad. We’re trying to move on and be a real force of culture and conversation – a wider genre recognised as having real cultural depth – but EDM is wiping that slate. For being taken seriously in a musical sense, that’s frustrating.  A lot of my work – especially with my label Tuskegee – is a revolt of that. That’s my passion. The rave changed me, and I want kids to be able to experience that tomorrow.
 
WHAT WE NEED IS PLUR – NO, REALLY
 
Image courtesy of Red Bull Music Academy
 
In the US, there’s this term PLUR. It’s got a crappy reputation now, but it stems from the values of original club culture: respect, being positive, communal unity. Once you have those values, they spread in how you conduct yourself and view the world. 
 
I was in a club recently, and there was this guy there with one of the original Paradise Garage tee shirts on. We got talking, and he said the major difference with dance music now and back then, is real diversity. You had social, class, race, sexual diversity – and that’s cool. That’s what dance music culture is about. Everyone under one roof, exploring their own and each others identities. A celebration of something more, something outside of received norms. Not having a giant glow stick and getting on it.
 
The Red Bull Music Academy street party for Paradise Garage and Larry Levan Way last weekend was beautiful for that exact reason. You have a huge block party in a huge city, full of white, black and Asian people, young and old. Nobody looked wasted, and hardly anyone was on their damn phones. They were just dancing and singing together to beautiful music, for hours and hours. That is club culture.
 
THERE’S A FINE LINE BETWEEN FREEDOM AND IDIOCY
 
 
I see some fucking crazy shit in clubs, and some fucking sad shit at festivals. It’s such a fine line.  Like, that photo Eric Prdyz tweeted from Ultra? Of a girl doing lines of coke off another girls naked vagina? At a festival, that’s gross. In a dark club, it would be kind of hot. In Berghain, that shit stands for freedom. At Ultra, it stands for excess and trash. 
 
The first time I ever played at Berghain, there was this big bear of a dude in assless leather chaps and a leather harness on the dance floor. I was playing ‘Yellow’ and when he bent over, this other guy came over and starts eating his ass. Everyone around them was just dancing and being all cool. I was like “……..that’s interesting”. But that’s a revolt against the world. That’s the freedom of the club. Falling in mud and getting cake thrown at you? That’s not freedom. You’re an idiot listening to shitty music.
 
EDM IS NOT ABOUT MUSIC, IT’S ABOUT MONEY
 
 
If you’re a band, a DJ, whatever, you’re only as big as how many people you can bring to a festival. EDM has really changed what commercial music consumption is. These purpose built clubs inside massive Las Vegas hotels? The music is shit, but they’re selling thousands of bottles of alcohol a night to rich idiots. Kids today would rather go out on a night out, listening to whatever music, and getting on it, than pay $40 to going to a rock show that ends at midnight. Everyone wants more, all the time. 
 
You can produce a huge festival and not be shitty, though. Look at Tomorrowlands in Belgium. It’s a huge festival, with almost the same acts at some of the major EDM festivals, yet so much quality and care is put into creating an experience. Electric Daisy Carnival? It’s a stage in a parking lot, full of kids with fucking suckers in their mouths and gas masks on, getting wasted.
 
To me, the perfect festival is Burning Man, or Shangri-La at Glastonbury. There’s music, but it’s not just about the music. It’s about experimentation, and the environment in which you experience music.
 
BUT, WHEN THE BUBBLE BURSTS, WE’LL HAVE A NEW GENERATION OF DANCE FANS
 
 
Not everyone’s a lifer in this world, but what separates the wheat from the chaff is intellect. Intellect is a true indication of taste. Some smart kids are standing in these EDM festivals, in the mud and heat and sick, and they’re thinking, “Yeah, this is fine for now, but this can’t be it forever”. There’s got to be something better – but they have to find it for themselves. That’s the next generation right there.
 
Seth Troxler is playing a lot of festivals this summer, but his Big Titty Surprise party at Sonar Festival, Barcelona,looks pretty sweet.