My post yesterday has caused quite a stir in some corners of the Internet. I started to update it but there’s so much new content I decided to make a separate post. Stay tuned, this is a fluid situation and large amounts of intel are coming in.
Donna Plays Games
One of the images that A858 sent me in his emails was a painting by this dubious “Donna Emerald” character. The email specifically discussed the painting in relation to the initials of “J” and “K” shown there, which he related to a story about wood carving. Fair Use provisions of copyright law permit discussion of a copyrighted work for non-profit education purposes. Donna has objected to the use of her painting on copyright grounds. Although our use here is completely legal and justifiable in context, we have removed the painting from the story at her request.
Donna has also objected to “one-sided” coverage of this issue at this blog. For her side, see her blog – which is even more “one-sided”. There’s no need for us to present her side and decide for anyone reading which one stacks up the best. We’re sharing the evidence that we have, which comes from the other side of her discussions. It takes two to tango, and two to describe their experience of tangoing together. The experience is unique to each.
She made a response video, but bizarrely (for a blogger) does not allow embedding:
“I’m not a Christian but if I were I would be praying for you”. What is immoral about trying to disprove someone’s false allegation? That is only an attack if you are trying to defend something wrong in the first place. Our religion is about truth and forgiveness. Judgement is reserved for God; sympathy and compassion is what we give our fellow humans. Nothing in this post is meant as a personal attack on “Donna”. It’s an attempt to stop the spreading of false narratives by providing whatever evidence I have – and also to show how there are connections between these YouTubers that are not immediately apparent.
They cry out in pain as they strike you, and they scream incessantly that they are victims of gang-stalking – while attacking targets in gangs with disinformation.
Whoever is operating the A858 account now is not Thomas Schoenberger, their writing styles are completely different and so are their email headers.
A858 email metadata:
TS email metadata:
Donna tested Jack’s French and he failed. Thomas speaks many languages fluently, as he has demonstrated repeatedly on video.
ParadisePete73 is not Thomas Schoenberger either.
I witnessed Pete speaking on the Discord voice when Defango and his crew took over Leppo’s channel. Many people heard this, so the lie that he is a “sock puppet” account and not a real person has been completely debunked. That doesn’t matter to Donna, because it doesn’t fit her victim narrative. The Tweet she describes from ParadisePete73 as a “threat” to her is actually a comment to Defango, who live-streamed his drive from Carson City to Lake Tahoe.
Donna has claimed that Janon has falsely identified her as Sheila Kavanagh, photographer. She appears to instead be Sheila Kavanagh, recognized as a painter of portraits and landscapes.
Decide for yourself. We will not doxx this person by providing address, phone number, or any other personal information. The information we are sharing here has all been put out into the public domain by herself, as she acknowledges in her livestream.
Note “skavop” Slideshare and link to Donna Emerald’s blog:
In this YouTube chat, the “Donna Emerald” character gets blocked and immediately “skavop” appears to defend her.
The “Skavop” character then appears and talks about Donna in the third person. Nobody’s buying it, and the sock puppet account gets banned.
This banning triggered a lengthy post accusing others of gang-stalking, and of course painting Donna as an innocent victim.
Donna has tried to distance herself from her involvement in #TheGame23
#TheGame23 relates to SiriSys. The infamous bot Buddhist Quinn Michaels was promoting a lot of this stuff, and Donna claims that is where her interest came from.
There is no question that she is not just “researching” it, but actively promoting it and encouraging others to play also.
There have also been a couple of comments left here by Esteban Trujillo de Gutierrez of Bangkok. While I am sympathetic to his plight as a “100% disabled” veteran taking anti-psychotic meds in “horse doses” and methadone twice a day, I don’t appreciate him coming to my web site to spread his lies. This “researcher” thinks that a statement of claim by a plaintiff to initiate a lawsuit must all be completely true, even if it was never presented under oath to a Court and no evidence was ever provided for any of the claims. He states this as if it were fact but he cannot demonstrate that he has ever seen even one page from this statement of Claim, or any other documents related to the case.
Of all the emails and attachments A858 sent to me, only one caused a problem. A virus and phishing error I’ve never seen before, warning “This Message Seems Dangerous” and contained links to a malicious site hosting malware. The email contained only one link: to what appeared to be Esteban’s twitter account.
This so-called self-described “researcher” Esteban seems to have been attacked by everyone he interviewed, and for some reason refused to release any of the interview he did with Defango a week after Isaac Kappy’s death.
Coincidentally (cough), he was a former Green Beret/DEA agent connected to Reagan and stationed at the Presidio SF alongside Lt Col Michael Aquino around the time of the Satanic Ritual Abuse, Franklin and Iran/Contra scandals.
So he’s “never ‘kind of connected'” to Presidents Reagan and Bush. Uh-huh. Other characters in this School Play are connected to the Bushes through massive political donations or family history. Defango has his own set of political connections, which seem to go surprisingly high for the #2 LARPer of the Internet in 2019 (decided by popular vote).
Esteban admitted that he was stationed at the Presidio base during the 80’s and knew exactly where Michael Aquino’s cubicle was. He claims to be a warlock/magician.
He tells us he doesn’t even know anyone connected to MagaCo, but is friends with their leader Glenn on his Keybase account:
He has already confessed directly to me that he is an informant to the guy he says he does nothing for.
His statement that he wanted nothing to do with me is belied by his frequent name-calling and promotion of falsehoods about me ever since.
Perhaps he is touchy about Satanism because this is the symbol he promotes on his pinned Tweet:
Esteban’s basis for claiming I am anti-Semitic was my suggestion that the Church of Satan’s connection to arms trafficking and Zionism and Jeffrey Epstein’s connection to arms trafficking and Zionism could possibly be related. Epstein worked for the MEGA Group, who have been connected to the Bushes through big dollar political donations.
Mitt Romney built his fortune with funding from Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s father.
We’re supposed to believe that a week after Isaac Kappy’s Mysterious Death, an occultist former (?) undercover agent with ties to the Bushes and the Presidio shows up with a sudden interest in the #Cicada3301 story? And around the same time as this some hedge fund guy with ties to the Bushes shows up attacking Thomas Schoenberger and speaking like they’re an expert in #Cicada3301? And all this is just coincidence, because Isaac Kappy and Jeffrey Epstein killed themselves?
Esteban is on an openly stated mission to destroy Thomas Schoenberger, as are Brett Trimble, Defango, Marcus Conte, Shark Belly Kelly, Fkn Freddy, OG Wan Kenobi – and others who shall remain unnamed. Donna Emerald seems to be joining the crew. Who’s paying for the boat?
The question is, why? What has this music composer and cryptographic expert ever done to all these people? It seems like he offered Defango career opportunities and introductions and promoted him into the alt-media spotlight. The same thing he did for Isaac Kappy, who he had a few positive interactions with but wasn’t particularly close to. Isn’t this the Christian way, to reach out and help people who seem to be trying to do good things?
“Oh he had a stalking charge many years ago and then a DUI”. So what? Many of the people against TS have had their own run-ins with the law in the past. Either you let everyone have a voice or you consistently never let anyone have a voice if they have at least one felony, and that must last forever even if they did their time – even if it was dismissed. Forget paying your debt to society. This is a new form of social credit score, gangs of trolls choosing who is to be silenced and deplatformed. Censoring critics in the guise of “hate speech”. Break the law once, and lose the right to ever speak publicly again. Do the people pushing these narratives really want to live in a world like that? Maybe they do; many of them seem to be practicing Satanists, or at least espousing those values.
Let’s focus on the information, not the personalities. Why does it matter to Esteban if I have “bad hygiene”? If this was true, rather than something made up by someone trying unsuccessfully to get $3 million from me, would it change any of the research I’m presenting? Why not discuss the research, instead of the researcher?
Ye shall know them by their fruits.
In this case, their narratives are the same, their targets are the same, their tactics are the same, their attack vectors are synchronized – and anyone questioning them in any way gets equally attacked.
This appears to be Donna’s “evidence” that Jack = TS. An account on YouTube called “Schoenberger’s Cat” made a comment “I am indeed proud to be Thomas Schoenberger”.
In the comments section she linked you can actually see Joe Blow (Thomas) talking to Schoenberger’s Cat, who sure seems to talk exactly like Jack.
Thomas has been trying to clear this up with Donna Emerald for quite some time now:
Jack stated the truth directly to Donna, and she accepted it at the time:
Donna’s claim that TheGame23 was something she looked at once and has no real interest in is further belied by the blogs she is promoting on her web site and the multiple posts there tagged “TheGame23”.
Jack claims to have been in the French Foreign Legion:
He also did a “Defango vs Unirock” 5 hour+ stream at the same time – starting the New Year by starting fights with other channels. Not clickbait: Dickbait.
Start the Lie Counter
Mr Chavez began with this February 2018 video he made claiming to be my friend.
He repeated on his new show the claim made in this older video that any bad ideas about him were put into my head by Nathan Stolpman from Lift the Veil, a show I’ve been on several times. This is false. My ideas about Defango have been formed by watching him for years, and observing as his narratives shift with the winds; not to mention being the target of his threats and malicious public smears designed to damage my reputation and future earning capabilities.
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He neglected to mention a key detail: that the video was made at the home of notorious Steemit troll Frank Bacon, who can actually be heard off-camera during the clip. Defango asks him “what are those things I was supposed to say, Bacon?” Even this video of friendship was clearly not genuine, something scripted by psyop fiction writers.
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Frank Bacon claimed credit for a devastating hack which forced the closure of a cryptocurrency business I was involved with, and threatened to hack this site also – all because he didn’t like what my guest Queen Tut said about him when I interviewed her for CryptoBeast #16, one of the more controversial podcasts I have done.
Defango stayed at Frank Bacon’s house in New Mexico for 3 days on his way to 60 days sharing a hotel suite with Thomas Schoenberger, allegedly financed by WellTraveledFox, as part of Operation SHADOWBOX (see our multi-part LARPWars series).
The chronology told by Bacon of Defango being at his house matches with the friends video. Unfortunately nothing else in his story does.
Silentpartnerio posted an “Introduce Yourself” Steemit post:
The triple brackets is reminiscent of the ((( ))) which is considered hate speech by the anti-anti-Semitism squad.
The metadata for this post shows a creation date of December 7, 2017.
The introductory post by Sophia Musik was dated February 17, 2018. The account creation date is Feb 16. Since the “friends” video was posted February 1, either Defango was at Frank Bacon’s house for more than 2 weeks that February, or Bacon is not telling the truth.
Perhaps we shouldn’t mix up Frank Bacon’s lies and hacking with Defango’s lies and hacking. It does seem like an example of the old adage “birds of a feather flock together”.
Defango then pointed to a post here by guest writer Terry Gotham, who wrote many posts for us about harm reduction on the party scene. Defango said he had met two of the people mentioned in the post – confirming the authenticity of our articles.
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Around the 13 minute mark Defango criticized my reporting as “one sided”. First of all, I’ve never claimed to be a reporter. I’m a researcher and this is my blog. The entire purpose of this blog is to share opinions – not just mine, others are welcome here too. All the posts that Defango singled out in his video to object to contain quotes from other people as well as my own analysis and interpretation.
Those who have been following here over the years have seen many opinions critical of me expressed in the comments – and not deleted, like many “truthers” do. We’ve also had guests posts from nearly 3 dozen different people. I have no problem doing interviews with people who present other viewpoints than my own – for example David Livingstone in CryptoBeast #14 or more recently John Brisson from We’ve Read the Documents.
Defango’s statement that the information presented here is “one-sided” is clearly false. What I think he really means is it’s not “his side”, which I discount because he is a charlatan.
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He said that there are 21 articles about him, and that the first one was the Mysterious Death of Isaac Kappy on May 14, 2019. His narrative changes from “Steve didn’t like me because of Nathan Stolpman” to “Steve didn’t lile me because of Isaac Kappy”. He conveniently forgets the threats he made to me in December 2018, including that I would have “the worst year of my life”.
In fact there are 22 posts about him (23 counting this one), with the first mention of him I can find on this site being February 2 2018 where I referenced his friendship video in a post about Quinn Michaels’ Burning Man claims.
I thought nothing of it at the time, but through the lens of hindsight it really seems unlikely to have been a coincidence that Quinn made a video about Burning Man the same day that Defango made a video about knowing lots of Burners and wanting to be my friend.
Defango was also mentioned in December 2018 in our story about Jason Goodman. He should know this because he objected to it at the time, saying it contained information he had presented before. Nobody else said that and he hasn’t been able to provide a citation, but I did update the story with his comments and added a photo credit for the Jason Goodman “superman shirt” photo.
So Defango was wrong about the number of posts (22 not 21) and wrong about when he was first mentioned (Feb 2018 not May 2019).
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Defango made a couple of other statements that have really nothing to do with me, yet are still demonstrably false.
“Nothing ever happened with RDS other than he paid me $500 to say I’m sorry”.
Here is evidence of just some of the entanglements between Robert David Steele, Manuel Chavez, and attorney Steven Biss and his wife. This has been raised by Jason Goodman in a Motion to Disqualify Counsel in the Eastern District of Virginia.
Robert David Steele was introduced to Tanya Biss by Nora Maccoby, whose family is connected to #PizzaGate in various ways. Nora was in touch with Jan Irvin in 2017 (see Debunking Jan Irvin).
Note the reference to Tanya’s network in Virginia.
It appears that around May 2017, all these players seemed to get connected to each other: Defango, Robert David Steele, Frank Bacon, Steven & Tanya Biss, George Webb, Jason Goodman, Jerome Corsi, Trevor Fitzgibbon, Trish the Dish, WellTraveledFox, White Rabbit, Thomas Schoenberger, Michael Levine. Other players floating around with connections to this group and/or their operations around that time include Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich, Roger Stone, Tracy Beanz, Praying Medic, Jack Posobiec, Lee Stranahan, Quinn Michaels, Lift the Veil, Doug & Tyla Gabriel of American Intelligence Media.
Is this the network Steele referenced?
Less than a week after the Port of Charleston Dirty Bomb LARP, Defango was presented to Steele by Tanya as a leader in the truth community and asked to suggest other channels. Steele wanted to present a list of truthers everyone should watch, based on what a couple of stoners watched. Is this the “Open Source Intelligence” approach?
Defango says he interviewed Robert David Steele on his show three times. All his Steele interviews on his channel have been set to private, possibly in relation to Defango’s role as a key player in contact with both Plaintiff and Defendants in Steele’s Virginia lawsuit against Jason Goodman (see LARPWars Part 2 – Moving the Goalposts).
Robert David Steele’s own web site lists three appearances on Defango’s channel:
For some reason he does not list his interview with Defango which took place on 2 December 2017.
Many felt that this epic final interview, where Defango hung up on Steele, was just another LARP. Some of the video has been preserved, along with a post-game interview with Lift The Veil.
So “ex” CIA guy Steele appeared on his show 4 times, not 3.
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After this, he was paid $500.
So by his own admission, Robert David Steele was paying Defango. Some would say extortion money, some would say apology tip – although it’s not clear Steele ever publicly apologized.
In May 2019, Defango blamed Steele for calling the police to visit him in Carson City, NV. Allegedly Tanya Biss actually made the police report for harassment.
Then in January 2019 Defango used his control over the Sophia Musik Steemit account to publish an attack piece on Steele and other truther channels, seemingly designed to trigger tension between Steele and Thomas Schoenberger.
Mr Chavez’ involvement with Mr Steele was clearly much, much more than an apology for one interview. They were setting him up to be the “tip of the spear” in the lawsuit against Jason Goodman, which has triggered Goodman to file a Motion to Disqualify and call for Steven Biss to be disbarred.
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It’s worth pointing out that Defango had a similar public pseudo-feud recently with someone who allegedly tried to recruit him into a “Jewish Defense League” to use #GayOps tactics to deplatform and demonetize opponents of the Motherland.
Swift moves were then made to create the optics of separation:
Things escalated dramatically, resulting in people losing their channels and social media accounts:
Is this real? Or more LARPing?
Defango also stated that FknFreddy refused to go on his show, saying “I’m going on someone else’s show that’s not a psyop”
Here is evidence leaked by Lestat (see LARPWars Part 5) of Discord chats with Defango which indicate Freddy did want to work with Defango:
For some reason, Defango then started talking about Vegan Mikey and Random Rants of Ryan. He alleges that Ryan doxxed Unirock and HoneyBee paid for the doxx. I asked Ryan about it and he said that he did not doxx Unirock but put some limited information out about his partner Unirach.
Ryan declined to answer whether HoneyBee paid, but he did previously admit that he paid for a private investigator himself to investigate Mikey.
[UPDATE Jan 16 2020 8:02am]
Defango has presented evidence confirming his story – Unirock was doxxed at the same time, and Honey Bee paid for the doxx. We will remove one from the score.
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Defango said Vegan Mikey wasn’t relevant so he refused to have him on his show. This is a classic example of gaslighting from Defango. He sets his video to private then pretends it never existed in the first place. He interviewed Vegan Mikey on his show on July 23 2019, even though Mikey had been specifically warned about “certain people” by Isaac Kappy. We now know that Defango met with Gabe Hoffman in person in June 2019 in Florida.
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Next Mr Chavez repeats his claims that I doxxed him after he filed a dozen false copyright strikes with Vimeo. The strikes were false because he never followed through with a lawsuit, which he would have lost anyway under Fair Use provisions. Defango mistakenly thinks that video has to be transformed to fit under a Fair Use exemption.
I spent several days writing the post #QAnon Part 1 Blind Items Revealed – #All4aLARP? I included carefully edited clips of Defango and his guest Dreamcatcher which were referred to throughout the post. As soon as I published the post, I noticed that the video clips came up blank. I checked my email and saw I had received a dozen strikes from Defango. I edited the post and included one of the emails from Vimeo to explain what had happened. Defango then contacted me and objected to his address details being shown, explaining (to my amazement) that he had actually put his home address down for a #GayOps attack. I immediately redacted the information and apologized.
If it is doxxing how can it be sent in an email from a large corporation like Vimeo? Defango agreed to their terms when filing his 12 strikes, which specifically includes consent to share his details with third parties. He posted the information to Pastebin, leaving it up there even after I had redacted it. If he was as concerned for his personal safety as he acts, why would he voluntarily put the information on the open Internet?
In rehashing this past episode, he did not point out anywhere I lied. Rather, I acted like a gentleman and removed the information on his request. Deafngo says this “shows the Luciferian nature of his thought form, he’s all about doxxing people and hurting them”. If it was malicious why would I apologize and remove it? I’d just leave it up.
He claimed that 80,000 people had seen his personal details. In fact the post has been seen 3,461 times in total. His details were not in the original post that was emailed to our subscribers. They were in one of the earlier post-publishing edits, and only for a few hours on the first day it was published. At most perhaps a few hundred people saw it, not 80,000. Defango has never shown evidence that anything happened as a result of this, although one time he tried to claim he was sent a large number of pizzas.
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About 40 minutes in Defango says that he has made “countless hours of video supplanting every piece of information he’s ever put out”. Most of the information I’ve put out on this blog and at my YouTube channel has never been discussed in any of his videos. This was his big chance to give us a list of whatever information I’ve put out that he claims was false. I think we have to assume that he tried his best but there’s nothing else; if he had anything more he would have used it.
In fact, he supplanted zero pieces of information that I put out.
The next claim was the use of subliminal messaging of a Skull and Bones in the start of Defango’s video about Isaac Kappy. He showed it, acted incredulous, then acknowledged that it was true and Lestat created the graphics for him.
Proving something I said is true has to count against Defango somehow, so let’s call that a minus one on the scoring.
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He points to some tweets of Thomas Schoenberger fighting back against Defango and his crew’s allegations against him with evidence. The tweets are no longer available as that account got shut down. Defango says this means there was no evidence.
The Twitter account being missing because of his gang’s #GayOps to silence TS does not show that I lied about anything. The original tweets are visible from the Wayback Machine:
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Around 44 minutes he says that I never referenced his narrative in this post. The post was written the day we learned about Isaac Kappy’s death, May 14 2019 in the US. The narrative that Defango had at the time was specifically referenced, as you can see in the screenshot above. Later his narrative changed, but it would be impossible for me to reference that since it was in the future at the time of writing.
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The next article he discussed is Debunking Jan Irvin. Defango’s name came up in relation to attorney Steven Biss, who claimed in a phone discussion broadcast on the Defango show to be his attorney. He has also been the lawyer for Robert David Steele (in his case against Jason Goodman), Timothy Charles Holmseth, and Devin Nunes.
Defango acknowledges “that’s actually true”.
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The next discussion is about whisper campaigns. Defango denies trying to mislead Titus Frost with accusations that I am a pedophile. The basis for this claim is that “hot dog” is pedophile code, something that originated on 4chan and has never been confirmed with an actual source. For example, it does not appear in the FBI List of Pedophile Symbols that was published on WikiLeaks and is used as a reference by #PizzaGate researchers. Nor is it in the list of pedo codewords at Urban Dictionary.
Once again, Defango gaslights his audience by denying something exists while displaying it on screen. Titus himself has told the story on his channel several times, as well as in the comments shown:
Defango says “Titus never put out that I was talking to him” and “where’s the evidence I was messaging anyone or running a whisper campaign”. The evidence is right there, the person who received the private messages from Defango is telling us exactly what was said to him. Mr Chavez could not make these accusations to me directly because of course they are completely false. Like every other accusation Defango has made against me, there is not the slightest piece of evidence for it.
He states of Fiona Barnett“girl hasn’t been able to prove a single one of her claims with evidence”. Fiona actually went to the police and spent two days giving them her statement. She also gave testimony under oath to a Royal Commission for two hours in 2013. Her testimony was taken extremely seriously in the Australian Senate:
Fiona wrote a post Unnecessary Evidence which provided true evidence against the spurious claims made in the dossier.
Her claim that Nicole Kidman’s psychiatrist father Antony collaborated with famous CIA doctors is verifiably true.
Fiona Barnett first started speaking out about organized pedophilia in 2004. She collected evidence from multiple parents and victims including witness statements and sent it to Australia’s Prime Minister, who wrote back thanking her.
How many of the people bad-mouthing Fiona Barnett on the internet because “she can’t have been raped by Walt Disney” (something she never said) have ever actually looked into what she has said under oath?
The statement that Fiona Barnett hasn’t been able to prove a single one of her claims with evidence is clearly false.
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Later in that post, Defango’s name comes up in relation to his mate “The Priest”
Eliahi Priest aka Contact Zero is part of #InsigniaGate, an 8 chan LARP which was launched in conjunction with the infamous and ubiquitous LARPer Defango…These two LARPers seem to still be in cahoots, with Defango releasing a video today praising his “bro” and “friend” for his “legendary” cyber-attack which shut down the Australian parliament.
Around 56 minutes into his video, Defango tries to convince us the above statement is false, by proving that it is true.
He says there was an 8chan thread discussing #InsigniaGate, Defango posted a link to his show on that thread, then Eliahi called into the show and they ended up talking for 4 hours.
The title of the August 24 2018 show is Who is Eliahi Priest? Contactzero @Ensin17 Drop #liveDive D17 Qanon
Does that sound the way Defango described it? Why is he wearing a suit?
Although the drop is only 3 hours old (one hour into the show), Defango already has many different video clips of Eliahi cued up to play.
Eliahi does call into Defango’s show in this launch episode, at 2:41:04. At 2:44:13 Defango says that he had called Kappy on the phone on an earlier live stream that day and asked him if he’d heard of Eliahi. How does that work if Defango was just learning about #InsigniaGate and meeting Eliahi for the first time on this later show? What would make Defango think Kappy was the guy to call about InsigniaGate? They only met for the first time a fortnight prior on August 8, and it wasn’t the most cordial interview, Kappy described it as “Isaac and Defango’s pissing contest”.
At 1:20:51 he says “it looks like the link of whatever was dropped was…hit some limit. i mean, it didn’t even seem like the damn drop has been able to be even be made yet, we’re supposed to be able to try to get this thing live, we literally just barely saw it.”
Defango asks “how is that working together?” His statement “we’re supposed to be able to try to get this thing live” sure sounds like people working together to me. Likewise, when someone comes on your show and you offer to introduce him to somebody else, that sounds like working together.
My statement that the #InsigniaGate LARP was launched by Eliahi in conjunction with Defango stands.
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Mr Chavez asks “what part of it is a LARP?” #InsigniaGate mixes real (but ancient) historical information from the Iran/Contra and BCCI/Nugan Hand scandals with “currency reset/secret global accounts” content from the “NESARA” LARP which has been running on the Internet for maybe 20 years. Some of the things that make it particularly LARPy are Eliahi’s self-appointed role as an Ambassador to space aliens who believe that love between adults and children should be encouraged without any sense of shame. #YMMV.
Defango concedes “yes we’re both LARPers”. Another true statement confirmed.
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Mr Chavez says of this section “he’s not reporting, he’s just taking digs at me”. Another falsehood.
The post is packed with primary source evidence, much of which had never been reported on the Internet before. None of it has been challenged in almost 2 years now. The only thing in the post that could remotely be construed as a “dig” at Defango is the statement “these two LARPers”, but he conceded that this is accurate.
Defango’s main objection here relates to the “Muh Discord logs”. These were first publicized by Jack Posobiec, who Defango claims was at DEFCON in a “room full of people with higher clearances than myself” when he first proposed the idea that became #QAnon.
Defango asks “if it’s good enough for Jack Posobiec why isn’t it good enough for Outtrim”?
John Michael Posobiec III’s Wikipedia page describes him as an “alt-right Internet troll and conspiracy theorist”. He makes no secret of his intelligence background and his love for Zionism.
Jack Posobiec claimed that there was no such thing as chat logs on XBox and PlayStation, showing he is not an authority on technology.
Posobiec claims to have known who was writing the Q posts at the start of the operation, so he’s not exactly an independent source.
Ironically, the “move to 8 chan” where he feels #QAnon became anti-Semitic is widely considered by most of the truth community to be when the Israelis took control of the operation, spearheaded by Jason Goodman’s handler mentor Dr Jerome Corsi.
Mr Chavez says that the Discord logs shown by Posobiec were forensically examined by the New York Times and signed off as authentic. Where is his citation for this? I can’t find anything on their web site.
The New York Times published What is QAnon (Aug 1 2018), but this makes no mention of any Discord logs.
Firstly, they used the “stock image” time and icon configuration for an iPhone screen.
This video shows how easy it is to fake Discord logs:
So easy that someone did it just to prove a point:
In Posobiec’s Discord drop a post was shown where the date in the URL was later than the date on the post.
Microchip explained this as a “glitch”, but I can’t say I’ve ever noticed something like that on Discord before.
If you slow the video down to the slowest speed on YouTube, you can see “September 14” change into “September 16” in real time around the 2 second mark. But this makes no sense, because there was no post on September 14. Computers don’t just make up random dates to show on screen, glitch or no glitch.
To my amateur, untrained eye this video looks like they made a new one with the date corrected, then edited the two videos together so that it goes from 14 to 16 from one frame to the next.
Defango says “there’s no way this evidence doesn’t stack up”, but I’m not so sure it would be Court admissible. Could it be verified by an independent expert? Could opposing counsel get a copy of the logs – or just these video clips? Why couldn’t Microchip film his phone from another device, or his computer from his phone?
The follow up videos really show nothing convincing, which in my opinion makes the whole thing even more suspicious.
If they showed the post which originally had the date glitch, and it no longer had the glitch because the version of Discord had been updated, that would be something. If they showed it scrolling through the chat log like the original video, that would also be something. If he used his phone to film himself logging into Discord on his iPad or computer, going to the group where this discussion was and scrolling through the chat to show the messages about creating Q, that would be pretty convincing. He’s done none of that.
Microchip claimed that he had Telegram and WhatsApp messages that he would be releasing also. These have never seen the light of day, it’s been almost a year and a half now.
JAnon, a friend of Microchip and JB from before they launched the Q psyop, says this is because the FBI started looking into Q and they had to delete all records of their LARP.
The problem for Defango with promoting Microchip’s version of events is he was not part of the operation. He has not been able to produce one piece of evidence of his own involvement – a far cry from his claim on Lift the Veil and elsewhere that he had written “more than half” the questions of the original Q.
Defango has also been caught lying many times as he has re-told his Q origin story, such as here where he claimed to be one of the 3 founders “Turdbo”:
Around 1 hour 11 of his video “debating” me, Defango refers to Turdbo as a separate person – proving that I was correct in my earlier analysis that he was lying about being Turdbo.
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Turdbo is in fact someone called Spicci. Defango now says that not only was he the original Q, but also that he was the original Turdbo.
We’re supposed to believe these LARPers could create a movement that engaged millions of people worldwide, but they couldn’t create their own Discord account? #SoundsLegit.
JAnon’s version of events is documented with some evidence and makes sense. The connection to Trump initially was through Ezra-Cohen Watnick.
I know who Wyatt is talking about here, and they are definitely a candidate for being part of the Q team. I’m not going to name the person though, as there is no evidence.
The problem with this entire theory is the enormous number of QProofs.
OK, I get that maybe they knew people like Ezra or Justin or maybe Sarah Huckabee Sanders or maybe even Kush – in the beginning. Through that they got some sort of hint about the Saudi purge about to go down.
How was most of the world taken by complete surprise by the Mueller report, while Q followers already knew what to expect? This seems far more than the work of a couple of Defango’s mates out trolling on the chans and making some memes.
The “Zero Delta” where Q posts something and then the President tweets the same thing at the same minute has been explained away as a technical hack whereby tweets from President Trump’s account can be obtained near-instantaneously through the API while they take a few minutes to be distributed to his 70 million followers. I’m not sure if that is true or not, it sounds plausible but the Zero Delta is far from the only Q proof at this point.
Q is coming up on 4000 posts so far and has been attacked by the Mainstream Media all around the world – yet no journalist will ask President Trump a question about it, and Trump will not say anything to dismiss it. Why is that? #All4aLARP?
Even if you accept JAnon’s version of events as true, and the Discord logs as 100% legitimate despite glitches and lack of verifiability – there is still more to the story than that. See #Q Part 2 – Aleksandr Qgin and the Qouncil for National Policy for my opinion of the “big picture” underpinnings of this infowar operation.
Defango did not demonstrate any lie from me; I will reserve judgement on his claim about the New York Times forensically examining the Discord logs until he produces some evidence of that.
The example Defango gave of the Discord logs proves that his own story that he was the creator of the Q psyop to be a lie. There is nothing in these logs about DEFCON. The idea is formed by Microchip on August 18, based on discussions of Luther Blissett’s book on AntiFa boards. It shows Microchip coming up with the idea of using the Socratic Method (teaching by asking questions).
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The next item highlighted by Defango was a tweet from Scott Adams.
Defango says this was being used to attack him – always the victim. He got into the fight with the Dilbert creator himself, due to his “exposing” Twitter philanthropist Bill Pulte who is giving millions of dollars away to random people. They say no good deed goes unpunished, and Defango sees himself as the punisher.
His team-mates joined in on this one:
There is nothing there that could be remotely construed as an attack on Defango by me – it’s Scott Adams calling him dumb and evil. I was just speculating that this may have been the reason why Defango’s other Twitter accounts had been terminated. His frequent account suspensions are his own responsibility for violating Twitter’s Terms of Service, not anybody else’s.
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Defango then moves on to his video about “Flynn L1ves”. He is gaslighting again, pretending he never said the things in his video that i wrote an entire post about.
What was debunked? You didn’t debunk anything. My story of the creation never changed. Flynn lives injected themselves into the movement . Shows us an error in judgement. Flynn and all these guys changed their information to be in line with q to say they created it
That is not at all the story he told in his Oct 10 2019 video. Watch the video and/or read the post to see for yourself. It completely debunks him. Why did he take it private? He only made it public again to discuss it in his video about me. It shows him collaborating and sharing documents with fugitive masturbator Timothy Charles Holmseth.
At 1 hour 18 Defango says “we’re proving that Steve is lying”. This is in itself a lie; he has not proved a single lie, and we’ve been counting.
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At 1 hour 21 he says that “MAGAco is paying Defango” has been debunked. All he has said is that he gave money to MAGAco PAC, then they return it to him by sponsoring his livestreams with many $100+ Ninjets. He says “all this is recorded on the blockchain” – great, post the transactions!
Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt that he will produce the evidence he claims to have, and not count this as a lie. Still, giving money to a PAC and then the PAC returns the money to you via cryptocurrency donations to your live streams sounds somewhat shady.
At 1 hour 22 Defango says “he never discussed Cicada taking over Q in this article”. This is false, it is in Part 1. We know he has read Part 1 because he gave me a dozen fake copyright strikes for it.
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Finally, at 1 hour 23 he starts discussing his ties to the intelligence community.
He admits that it is true that he met the director of the Keyhole satellite program, and true that he participated in projects for IARPA. He neglects to mention his relationship with Robert David Steele, the Bisses, Eliahi Priest and others.
Now he downplays his connection to the Keyhole founder, but in his earlier video he is talking it up as further “proof” that he was part of the Q Team – because Q posted about Keyhole right around the time Defango met the founder.
His work for IARPA was clearly more than just signing up for an online study:
Once again, rather than proving something here was false, Defango proved it was true.
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Defango was busted previously lying about the dates of his involvement with IARPA’s Project CREATE:
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Defango wraps up by saying:
“there’s issues with every single piece of reporting he’s done on me. We’ve been able to destroy him with his blog posts on his own. 21 different articles. The reporting is untrue”
This guy can’t help himself, he has to add another lie in the conclusion. Out of 22 articles, he only identified issues with 5 of them.
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His real issue is that pointing out his own statements and behavior does not cast him in a good light.
He had his chance to show what the issues are, but failed. Perhaps he has issues with some of the reporting, but he did not provide evidence to demonstrate a single thing was untrue. In fact, he confirmed 6 different statements here were true.
in the process of “destroying” me, he told at least 27 lies – all proven here, with evidence. He showed zero lies from me.